Gravel / Gravé / Gnarmac / Groad / ATB

That looks amazing! Where exactly?

Also, can we keep mentioning @JB when it comes to #NoGravel

First two are North Yorkshire Moors (Fylingdales Moor and somewhere North of Cockayne), the final one was Yorkshire Dales (the grouse moors above Carperby), taken on the ride back West on the race here: https://bikepacking.com/event/dales-divide-2020/

Ah this one flew completely under my radar I was wondering why I was seeing a whole bunch of people riding full bikepacking set ups when I was out riding the other day. Looks like a great route though!

can we keep mentioning @JB when it comes to #NoGravel

I'm not convinced the joke is on him tbh. There's a pic a few posts up that looks like the edge of a car park in a forest...

a car park in a forest

the one JB sat in with air con as it was too hot?

Sweet Jesus, that's blasphemy to the the gravel gods. Why won't someone think of all the gloriously missed Instagram shots.

What was the point you were trying to make by tagging @JB?

I can't remember where, but he commented about there not being any 'proper or real gravel in the U.K' which I found amusing.

It was rescheduled from Easter. I only learned of that myself a few weeks back, which in hindsight perhaps wasn't long to get back in shape. I think there were perhaps 50 or so riders that took part.

The great bits of the route were great. The bad bits were really nasty, the kind of boggy or rutted paths that you'd never actually choose to ride, although that was perhaps to be expected given last week's weather and the aim to make a coast to coast route as off-road as possible.

Most of the #nogravel pics so far are not doing a great job of proving him wrong though.

By that logic, road riding in the UK isn’t really road riding As it doesn’t match the smooth alpine topography ‘true’ road riding belongs to as is advertised.

I wasn’t aware there was a very concise criteria as to what makes ‘true gravel’ so.
Ride wherever you want and designate it however you see fit.

Always given gravel tracks for granted in my homeland. Here you have to cross 7 gates, canals, grass, bogs, rocks and main roads just to get a nice ten minute gravel track and an Instagram picture.

Why can't we admit there's nowhere to ride any kind of bike in this cursed country.

There's no gravel to ride a gravel bike, as proven.

Road bikes are designed for the traffic free tarmac of the pro peloton so that's out.

No mountains in England, so mountain bikes are moot. Potentially some in Wales and Scotland but obviously nothing anyone continental would recognise as such.

Even cargo and utility bikes are pretty redundant given the lack of well considered bike infrastructure.

There's a few velodromes if you have a track bike I suppose, but you would have to drive your bike there, unless you were willing to ride a track bike on the road. But who would do that.

You are right, the only bikes worth buying are eBikes.

Luckily we have stable, dry weather and road repair and engineering that’s perfect for Zwift.

Also where do you ride your mini velo? You better sell it (to me).

I ride it to the mosque, mashallah.

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Anyone ride a Rondo Ruut?

Talk to me. Looks like ideal package for my needs and quite like the AL version, well within my cycle to work scheme.

Based on spec and looks, I say go for it

a very concise criteria as to what makes ‘true gravel’

Whatever it is I'm not sure it is the kind of boggy or rutted paths that you'd never actually choose to ride. Just as I'm not "gravel grinding" when I ride with my son in the local park. IMHO. If I may.

Anyway, road cycling in the UK can actually be pretty good, no? You have lanes and Box Mountain and even the occasional collapsed bridge.

Ridden the new Diverge EVO; surprisingly low even on a 56cm/Large that felt more like a Small.

Was fun to ride but more of a glorified hybrid than a flat bar nogravel.

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Have now bought a second Cosmic Stallion as the first one took my money via a website but subsequently turned out not to be in stock. Have checked with a local shop and it’s definitely out of stock at the distributor so very much expecting this order to be cancelled later as well. Might be back to the drawing board

I think the gravel car park on the edge of the forest comment may refer to my pic..

Actually this was where the gravel ran out and I was faced with a terrifying mtb black run through the roots... Thank god for suspension.

glorified hybrid than a flat bar nogravel

what would be the difference?

One’s for towpath and the other not for gravel.