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  • (strictly speaking, the indicative in the subordinate clause doesn't have a tense--it hasn't happened, isn't happening, and may not happen, but the indicative is required because 'if' already carries the conditional sense, so adding a conditional form would be nonsense)

    not sure i understand this. so an utterance like:

    "if you would just let me finish, ..."

    is nonsense?

  • i'm asking more about the verb form in that clause. oliver seems to say that a conditional there would produce nonsense (whereas a non-conditional like "if you let me finish" is not nonsense)

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