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  • i don't really know much about frame geometry/angles and such, but is there a compelling reason why this bike comes with a very short stem? if i replaced it with something like 80mm, would is severely affect handling? could it be to stop you clonking your kids on the heaD?

    i like the 'tech documentation' for the workcycles kr8.

    Why are the brake levers pointed so far downward?
    That’s so that they don’t smack your kids in the head when you turn. Please leave them that way if you carry kids on the bench. You can also adjust them horizontally if that works better for you.

    I find it difficult to ride without hands on the Kr8/Cargobike. How can I do this?
    You can’t.

  • I have a 100mm stem on mine which is basically the same setup. Riding position is almost identical to my road bike with regards to drop and reach. Key issue is it does move the bars forwards which means they can encroach on your cargo space / kid's head / legs (if you have a rear facing seat on the front) etc etc.

    In terms of handling, the stem doesn't play the same role on a long john as it does when it's directly operating above the front wheel on a normal bike. It's difficult to explain, but if you take your hand off normal handlebars to signal, you keep leaning forwards on the bars with the other hand and the bike pushes back through the bars and continues on its path in a straight line. On a long john style, you kind of have to sit up a bit and slightly pull back rather than push, because it tries to pull out of your hand. It's because it has a very shallow head tube angle and your weight is in a different place on the bike. I haven't tried a short stem, but I'd wager it's actually easier to ride with a shorter one.

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