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user67706akajimmythegrin

So, opinions on the pack rat please, thinking 50cm frame and move all the bits from the mountain bike and commute, child pull, shop etc and use the roller for fun and commute, also considering crosscheck but then it would be one bike for all, thoughts please

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crow in reply to @user67706akajimmythegrin
It’s basically a smaller wheeled cross check that handles a front load better. I have not found it to handle weirdly without a front load either.

Plusses for the pack rat would be better handling of front load, less toe overlap (esp in small sizes) and better tire clearance, a la:

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yoshy in reply to @crow

That's great. They usually seem to be built up as odd-shaped, confused rando jumbles, but that works.
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user67706akajimmythegrin in reply to @crow

That's the answer I was hoping for, that looks exactly what I'm looking for. What size is it, how tall are you and how big are the tyres

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