• Anyone own a Canyon Grail ? Need some help with sizing.

  • Anyone own a Canyon Grail ?

    Is anyone devoid of taste? Like the Specialized Future shock, the suspension element is in the wrong place and also a gimmick IMHO.

  • it is hideous (esp the canyon) but the bar suspension stuff does work. i have one of the shock stop stem things and i imagine the future shock is nicer, esp since the newer one is damped. it isn't necessary for most riding ofc but there have been a few times when i was doing fast rocky or washboarded descents that i was very happy for it, some super long rides, and also some unexpected pothole impacts. only time it is annoying is when sprinting on the hoods which i don't do much of anyhow.

  • Only the carbon one. I have the Al Grail which has normal bars. @Zed in XS if that is useful.

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