Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

It's hard to respond to this stream of consciousness to be honest...

I'm no fan of the dreadful handling of the pandemic by the Tories and I haven't forgotten those things but you're conflating two different things, as with the UK having the highest death rate - it's not death rates that decide this, its infection rates.

If you know of any better sources of information on infection rates in the UK and France please do link to them.

Is infection rate or death rate more important as a gauge to success?

Infection rate, because if fewer people get it fewer people will die.

it's currently the summers holidays and most schools start in 2 weeks 3 days. If they've got half a week or more left then their kid can't go back day 1.

If it is so hard, why bother ;)

You are coming across, to me at least, as defending the acts of the Uk government and the actions. The bans weren't there before why bother now? There seems to be missing the point of how the infection rates are calculated, and how the UK calculated covid deaths falsely, yet has still the highest of the EU. Is England still getting a few areas of high infection and death. Are people from those areas stopped from travelling or interacting with others?

The first thing is are the UK and other countries using the same basis for testing so are infection rates comparable, are even the death rates calculated the same way? If infection rates equate to a similar number of deaths, as you would expect in the first world, why is there a difference.

Infection rate, because if fewer people get it fewer people will die.

That is a very simplistic view, you do see that? Especially as there is little understanding of covid and how it affects some and later effects too.

Some have schools have gone back already, staggered start.

The bans weren't there before why bother now?

I think travel bans should have been in place earlier but just because the government cocked that up doesn't mean they should never have a travel ban in the future.

Is England still getting a few areas of high infection and death.

Yes.

Are people from those areas stopped from travelling or interacting with others?

For some reasons, yes. Eg if you live in Leicester you can travel to your job in Nottingham but you can't visit your parents in Nottingham.

Who’s gone back already?

Scotland

If kids are back at school already I'd guess their parents aren't on holiday in France right now

Will be interesting to follow the schools situation in Scotland.

As I'm not sure my son won't drag it in once he's back. It feels like you just need one superspreader in a classroom, but maybe it won't be so bad?

I think travel bans should have been in place earlier but just because the government cocked that up doesn't mean they should never have a travel ban in the future.

That is the thing, there weren't travel bans but there weren't any checks or control on people landing. That has to be more than a cock up.

I received two vouchers on the fix your bike scheme two week ago, but now when I login to the website they have disappeared & it just states - All vouchers at this point have been allocated to customers. Please check back regularly for future releases.

https://fixyourbikevoucherscheme.est.org.uk/Voucher/Dashboard

Anyone know how I get them back or what might have happened to them?

Sorry to hear, sound like a shambles my lbs isn't accepting vouchers now:

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I'm getting this ad on fb

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Where are you? Are you in a reported high risk area?

I get that, and we live near each other.

Which is a risk in itself.

But you guys are in a high risk area then, at the mo, no?

Ha, yeah, Manchester is on some kind of extra measures thing.

Not that it feels even slightly different than before

^ this.

jesus..

^ This is what my portal page used to show me, but now when I login they've gone..

Soz

That's how us TCR racers do it. You're not breaking new ground here ;)

4 different independent bike shops I know of stopped accepting the vouchers as the vouchers aren't being redeemed.