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Thanks - I think you're right though, have a feeling 3d24 is a diff axle size and therefore not compatible.
Bloody things are a pain...
I keep wondering if I can bodge it with a pin spanner (as they seem considerably cheaper) but if the spider is held in with loctite etc I'm guessing it'd be difficult to exert enough force to make it really work
@andyp maybe? or @TTM ?