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  • I tell people there will be noise cross chaining and don't do it if they say there's noise when cross chaining. This R8000 defo is more sensitive to it than the rival I took off, maybe a thinner cage for better actual shifting, should be able to eliminate it with trim for everything except maybe big/big, small/small and the maybe the gears next to them, that's what I aim for and tell people to avoid, also if it's a triple then middle/biggest or smallest. Some short chainstay frames also leave the chain making a racket on the inside of the big chainring when in smaller cogs at the back.

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