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Seriously, did someone from SRAM infiltrate Shimano?
Aw, come on, it's not that bad. It's fiddly to set up, but it doesn't just dump the chain off the rings completely every time you have the temerity to try shifting the front mech.
Is it definitely rubbing on the cage? My new cross bike sounds a bit rough in big and small gears on the cassette, but it's definitely not the FD, because it doesn't have one. I think that the short chainstays (which you could well have on an aero frame) just mean that the chain is on the edge of its articulation when you're at either end of the cassette and so sounds a bit unhappy.
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it doesn't just dump the chain off the rings completely every time you have the temerity to try shifting the front mech.
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Yeah, there's seemingly no position that it won't rub on one of the extremes. Yes, I know he shouldn't be cross-chaining but still it shouldn't be rough as guts if he is. There's definitely excess chain noise in general but it's definitely rubbing - I'm also adjusting to the finest gaps I can by eyeballing along the inner cage and turning the limit so it just clears, so as not to push the cage further out (into crank) than necessary.
Maybe when it first loosened off, something went awry with the cable. I did notice that even if I'd backed off the low limit, I could still push the cage further inwards and thought maybe it's sticky cables. But then when using the shifter to dump it into the small ring, it traveled all the way so in-use this wouldn't be an issue.
I need to watch a pro set one of these new FDs up and see if there's something else I've missed. In fact, I might "upgrade" one of our bikes to this new style and work on it until it's perfect. Then at least I'd know if his derailler or the cables are fucked in some way, rather than it being some setup tweak I'm missing.
I've dragged the cable out hard (and this time use the cable tension bolt) but it's an aero frame so who fucking knows how convoluted the routing is. At max (trimmed) in or out it's still rubbing so I gave up. If the choice is rub the chain on the cage or clip the crank arm, I'm going with rubbing the cage.
It can get all the gears and doesn't hit the crank arm, it just sounds rough in highest gear and when cross-chaining in big/big so fuck it. Must've spent 3hrs trying different starting points. It "works" and he can take it back to the shop to get done properly. The bike is not even 3 months old so they can have a go at it.
Meanwhile my 7800 and the grrl's 105 or whatever the fuck it is, take about 2min to setup and work just fine.
Seriously, did someone from SRAM infiltrate Shimano?