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Sorry, missed this. Pretty much my thoughts/what I had ascertained from reading many accounts of using Campag... new mechanical 12sp stuff is supposed to be really nice but I’m not financially recovered from buying the Seven yet 😂
Still tempted to give it a go given Potenza shifters and mechs are so cheap and I can use them with a Shimano chain, cassette and brakes, just to determine if I like them. But then, Shimano is ye olde reliable. Gonna wait till I have new bars before deciding whether I still dislike the ergonomics. I miss 10sp SRAM ergonomics. Thought they were stupendously comfortable....
JB
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Ok, my own personal opinions as follows:
Shimano - mechanical I can’t get on with, the flappy brake lever pisses me off. Di2 solves my problem here, and I like that the pushing of a button does not require a huge gesture, it feels like I can keep riding ‘harder’ (faster or slower) and change gear instantly when I need/want to.
Sram - mechanical, only ridden 10 speed double tap and I bloody love it, the hoods feel tiny now though as I’ve had di2 and campag 11 so I’ve sold it all and hoping to get some 11speed shifters cheap at some point to try. Etap - I’d bloody love some etap
Campagnolo - mechanical, I’ve ridden a lot of older 8 and 9 speed campagnolo and never had an issue with it, but it was always put together badly by me when I wasn’t a particularly good mechanic. I’m still not a particularly good mechanic. 11 speed shifters are the most comfortable shape out of the three however the shifting does not feel as sharp/responsive/accessible as di2 - there are some that argue that it shouldn’t and that you need to adopt a different style of riding to get the most out of campagnolo... preemptive shifts rather than lazily clicking a button when you need to, or indeed changing gear when you decide you can’t sustain an effort an longer...
In the first few days the slightly flappy/loose feeling shifter paddle pissed me off - I then got used to it and I don’t think I notice it now. The thumb lever shifter paddle location is fine for me, after a few hours riding you get used to how it rides and adjust your shifting style accordingly - that said it’s on a totally different bike that I never planned to thrash, it’s for a more casual head up and look at the scenery sunny day type of jaunt...
Maybe Di2 is boringly reliable and steals the soul of the bike and allows lazy/bad habits to persist... maybe campagnolo 11 is the slightly more agricultural but think of those folks that climb mountains with down tube shifters, it’s a different discipline... it has a charm about it that Di2 does not...
I’m rambling now, and I hope I’ve not sounded like too much of a twat in my explanations... the reason the Moots has di2 is I accidentally collected most of a second group by putting together the first and I wanted the challenge of internal routing the cables as a project to keep me busy and feel a little more attached to it sentimentally from the off. Campagnolo looks prettier, and is more comfortable in the riding when you’re cruising along in the right gear...