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• #23752
Functional porn
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• #23753
If only there were some proven way of securing bags either side of the back wheel, maybe it could even provide a platform above the back wheel so one wouldnβt need a swinging load on the seat post.
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• #23754
Ah.. Guess id have to try it to judge but sort of looks like inventing the wheel again. Maybe some weight to be gained over classic panniers.
I have the same mounting points on my frame. So could give it a go the next time I need to carry a lot.
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• #23755
edit; saddle bags are death
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• #23756
"A rear rack is fitted to suit some specially-designed drybags β also made by Fern. Dry bags can be optionally strapped-on, providing extra luggage space without requiring a cargo cage to keep everything in check. "
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• #23757
Theyβre lucky they made a rack so they donβt need a cage. But yeah maybe takes a slightly larger load. But then a pannier would take a slightly larger load again.
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• #23758
wou'll like it's other form
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• #23759
And a trailer would be able to fit so much more than a pannier.
Not everyone needs a double pannier's worth of stuff, and not everyone likes to have the bulk of weight on the rear wheel. I'm going to go out on a limb here and suggest that Fern's use of smaller bags on the rear triangle is intentional.
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• #23760
I do want a trailer
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• #23761
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• #23762
Agree that not everyone needs a full 4-pannier setup, and that a bikepacking setup may have advantages on an off-roading setup, but as I said I'm not sure the racks are all that well engineered - even on the rim brake version there's not a huge amount of triangulation. I'd be happier with a Tubus Tara-style loop over the rear wheel, or Blackburn-lowrider-style mounts either side of the seatstay. Of course you'll most likely be ok - otherwise I guess they'd have already had reports of breakages - but if you're already going full custom for the frame and bags, why not sweat all the details?
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• #23763
nailed it
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• #23764
also 10/10
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• #23765
Lol, yes I do sound like an old cunt, I do apologise. I just donβt really get why youβd have a frame with custom mounts for a custom rack which doesnβt look as durable as it could be and requires custom bags, all to the end of having a purpose made bike-packing rig which presumably will spend most of its life loaded up, so whereβs the advantage with non-permanent load mountings?
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• #23766
It's bicycle jewelry.
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• #23767
@Thrustvector makes a fair point about potential flimsiness, though I doubt anyone here has been hands on and flicked the thing, so it feels like mainly (informed) conjecture.
I think most bikepacking or TCR rigs will look impractical, or even unfit for purpose through the lens of more traditional touring / audax ...
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• #23768
Tell that to the Tubus duo and Salsa down under
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• #23769
Yes Iβm all for the thing thatβs not a rear rack. Would buy :-) also secretly in love with packing things in small bags to go in larger bags so would skip larger bag if possible.
From experience it sucks to pack too much in one place(fork) and would like the possibility to spread things all over the bike. Havenβt entered the bladder game so main triangle is mostly occupied by bottles.
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• #23770
Both of which are triangulated Blackburn-style of both sides of the fork blade? The Fern racks are attached on one side of the seatstay by a long-ish bolt, which is going to see a bending load if anything bumps the luggage from the side.
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• #23771
Since I can't decide what to start my next project with (Gravel/650b conversion of some old mtb frame) I have to use my beloved Peugeot track bike for commuting duty at the moment. I breaks my heart but at least it doesn't look too terrible.
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• #23773
cycling must be great with short legs, you can slam the stem and the seat.
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• #23774
How many lights has the second one got! Awesome
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• #23775
Could you share the source? Iβm building a big 82 Stumpjumper thatβs going in this direction. Iβd like to see more of the cockpit.
perfection.