• Lol, yes I do sound like an old cunt, I do apologise. I just don’t really get why you’d have a frame with custom mounts for a custom rack which doesn’t look as durable as it could be and requires custom bags, all to the end of having a purpose made bike-packing rig which presumably will spend most of its life loaded up, so where’s the advantage with non-permanent load mountings?

  • @Thrustvector makes a fair point about potential flimsiness, though I doubt anyone here has been hands on and flicked the thing, so it feels like mainly (informed) conjecture.

    I think most bikepacking or TCR rigs will look impractical, or even unfit for purpose through the lens of more traditional touring / audax ...