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Aroogah in reply to @Oliver Schick

I've long been baffled at how poor British training must be given that people fail their driving test so often. IIRC in Germany you spend months doing it, with extensive classroom lessons and a lot of driving practice, and you're not set up to fail in a practical driving test you have to re-take multiple times, as seems common here. I imagine it's more thorough in the US, too?

Yes. IIRC we had 15-20 hours of practical driving, a similar amount observing plus the class time. I had a learners permit at 15 then did lots of driving with my parents in the front seat. My dad had a hardship exemption and had a full drivers license at 14 (~1959).

Here it's made to be a big complex thing. Not sure why. It can't be that difficult, we've all seen some completely incompetent driving.

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branwen in reply to @Aroogah

Here it's made to be a big complex thing. Not sure why. It can't be that difficult, we've all seen some completely incompetent driving.

I feel like this is entirely the issue. My own experience was of failing twice because of not fully anticipating quite how stupid other road users could be (which obviously is part of the test, but one was bad enough that the tester didn't even respond until after the fact), rather than any actual mechanical failing or lack of understanding.

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gbj_tester in reply to @branwen

My own experience was of failing twice because of not fully anticipating quite how stupid other road users could be

The simple mechanical skill of moving a car around without bumping into stationary objects is the easy part. The main skill in driving in traffic is not in avoiding incidents of your own making, it's in making sure you don't get involved in other people's crashes.

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