Lightweight tent recommendations?

"Why does no one sell coffee in the countryside?!"

...aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're back at the stoves thread.

We're already operating at the limits of my collection of bags. There's no way in hell I'm considering cooking/coffee kit until I've sussed out her sleep kit and her own set of bags.

Uber straight home?

I've paid £200+ for a taxi to get to (and maybe from? I can't remember) a race before when someone's car broke down. So, this kind of behaviour is not without precedent. Never used Uber though. Think it was the crowd fave, AddieLee

"Why does no one sell coffee in the countryside?!"

Take a litre of cold brew with you.

That's what I did on the last long one. I haven't made any cold brew for this but we've done some shots (of coffee, not tequila) and I'll add them to a bottle for a Sunday morning WOOHOO!.

Sorted plan C then!

I'm really happy with my naturehike star river 2. It's a copy of the big agnes copper spur. Tent poles fit in my Carradice longflap so should be about 30-35cm long. It's freestanding and the 2 side entries make it feasible as a 2 person tent. Including ground sheet, stakes etc it weighs about 2 kilos which is light enough for me. I payed 135 euros on aliexpress and it shipped from Germany so fast and no import tax.

Worth getting over the Agnes just for the fact it actually comes in green

We made it back, eventually.
Flats and sneakers not a great idea.
Neither was only taking bivvies. Of course it pissed it down most of the night.
Maybe I should resurrect my blog and do a write up. That idea will wear off tomorrow.

I can do it now.

Swore at cars actually not much of an issue for once
Swore are mud/rocks/thorns oh hell yes, i think i threw the bike in the bushes more than once
Got drunk i mean, was this ever in doubt?
Argh what fucking time is it?! yeah, both ends of the night
"Why does no one sell coffee in the countryside?!" not as bad as I expected because we left later than I thought
Swore at cars mostly fine, actually
Home. fuck that took ages
Get drunk. nah, but did order 4 x pasta mains

Sounds like you learned a bit then. Next time with tent borrowed from Skinny and a stove? :)

I'm writing it up in a bit more detail. I'm still undecided to be honest. I like bivvies because they're super fast and stealth but if I'm going to Scotland where wild camping is legal, there's far less man-made shelter and it's wetter, it makes sense to take a 2p tent.

Stove I'm not so sold on. Quite a bit of extra kit/bulk for a warm meal and coffee. Depends how rough you wanna go I suppose.

What part of Scotland are you planning, you can do without a Stove, me and a couple of friends did the Deeside Trail over a couple of nights with bivvy bag over 2 nights (one night in a bothy), there were plenty of options for food, drink and shops along the way no need for a stove, have also done parts of the northcoast 500, even in the more secluded parts, if you plan stops and are sensible you can definitely do without that faff if you want to.

Yes, stove makes sense for long stretches in the wild and slow touring. My preference is a trangia, skinny mentioned pocket rocket. If you're near villages, town etc. then stove not needed, I agree.

If you just want to boil water for coffee/pot noodle/boil-in-the-bag food, then a meths stove/Ti mug setup can be pretty lightweight. I've got a Speedster stove & windshield for an Alpkit 650ml Ti mug. Total weight for that is about 170g, plus whatever meths I want to bring. The main bulk/weight is going to come from the food and water itself rather than from the cooking kit.

For actual cooking I prefer a proper Trangia, but at about a kg and reasonable bulk that's touring rather than bikepacking kit.

Why not grab a sheet of ripstop to use as (emergency) tarp, with a couple small guy lines?

No massive increase in weight or bulk, it pleases the tarp lief crew, and at least it will be cover when the bivvy feels like it wasn’t enough. Less convenient than a full tent setup, but less than 10% the weight or size penalty.

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Why not grab a sheet of ripstop to use as (emergency) tarp, with a couple small guy lines?

I did think about this but ran out of time. I was just going to take a tent with my old rack borrowed back and then the forecast was fine and we decided against it.

End result is I think a 2P bikepacking tent is the best option for 'us' and the bivvys will be for me for race use.

The elepahant in the room is the pricetag but initial impression of the BA Copper Spur UL2 are very good. Fits between 38cm handlebars and can still change gear. Will get either some voile straps or a lighweight harness, like Alpkit Joey or woho x-touring - not sure the stock straps will keep it still.

Pitched the inner in the living room, really easy to setup, freestanding and goes back in it's bag without a fight.

Is it 4x better than a lanshan, no idea!

They're 38cm bars? That's neat. Are your cables normally pushed back like that or is that just a result of the tent holding them down?

Is it attached at the bottom? I think It'd put it in a proper harness to stop it bouncing.

I've been so happy with my 4-man BA tent I'm v likely to go for one of those when I replace my shitty Berghaus one-man thing. Still cheaper than the Terra Nova one I've played around with, though nowhere near as light

They're 38cm bars? That's neat. Are your cables normally pushed back like that or is that just a result of the tent holding them down?

Is it attached at the bottom? I think It'd put it in a proper harness to stop it bouncing.

Yup 38cm c-c. It's very tight if you wanted the tent to sit between the levers and you'd struggle to hold the hoods or change gear. Roomy if it hangs under.

The cables do sit quite far back naturally but it is pushing on them slightly. No rear strap provided to stop bouncing, think a harness is wise to protect the frame/cables and tent.

Yeah, I got a harness off Aroogah and the missus used it on the weekend. She's got slightly wider bars than me so will likely end up with the tent unless I get around to swapping my bars (but aerobars, taping, yada yada i'm lazy).

I'm interested in lightweight gear because I have to carry everything for 3 people in my bike. At least the boy is mostly traveling under his own power now, not much towing required.

Currently have a lamshan 1p and 2p on order. Plus a light tarp to rig as a shelter.

Anyone got a recommendation for kids sleeping bags that pack down well? Best option I've found so far is decathlon at 1.1kg/£30.