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  • Not the Surly hubs but get a lot of people bringing American Classic wheels to me in work coz they are having trouble with getting them tightened, axle turns instead of bolt tightening/loosening, hub sort of rolls forward’s in the track end as the bolt does up, that kinda thing.

    Get the same with nutted hubs too but would say I get as many American Classics as I do all the nutted hubs combined.

    Anecdotal maybe but has put me off allen key hubs a bit.

    That said, I do have an allen bolt Hope trials hub and it’s been fine.

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