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  • Less cakes/pies etc.

    Are you doing sweetspot base or traditional base?

    I think I would find it much harder to eat less on sweetspot due to having to eat on the turbo due to session intensity, whereas you can probably do 1-1.5h at zone 2 fasted.

    I’ve just lost 7kg in 2 months doing 8 weeks of largely sweetspot/vo2 intervals in 1h workouts 6 times a week.
    The weight change has been mostly diet related, 500kcal deficit on Myfitnespal while largely maintaining intermittent fasting between 8pm-12pm (16h)
    Workouts in the morning while fasted, which was pretty brutal.

  • Sounds a lot like @cjr’s approach to (successful) weight loss. 6 times a week though!? I’ve been struggling with 1:15 three times a week. I am at the pointy end of sustained power build though so probably the hardest workouts I’ll be doing all year. 1000kcal workouts straight out of bed are pretty brutal 😑

  • I used to teach Taekwondo (and take part) 3 times a week for 2h pre lockdown, in addition to a couple of hours cycling before lockdown so used to managing leg/body fatigue.

    I decided to do 2 x 4 week FTP booster on Zwift, instead of Traineroad, due to wanting to plan for 1 month blocks rather than 6 weeks on Traineroad.

    The 4w ftp booster workouts were not so hard, slightly shorter intervals than your typical 2x10, 2x20 at sweetspot/threshold, but spreading them over 6 days.
    Around 1h so possible to complete fasted, but a few I planned to do post lunch and fueled if I thought they would be harder. Also Ramp tests were done fully fueled.

    Typical day was 2200-2300kcals, 800-900kcals in the main meals, 400kcals in snacks in between. Had a fair few cheat days in between, probably linked to body fatigue. IF stopped monster all day cheat days.

    Start: 76.7kg 253w ftp
    Month 1: 72kg 273w ftp
    Month 2: 69kg 295w ftp
    Month 3: Hoping for 67/68 and 300w+

    Off to France for a month soon, where it will be nice roads, interspersed with 1-3m climbs everywhere and bread and cheese, so don’t expect to lose any more weight, but should be good to boost anaerobic and vo2.

  • Built a hybrid plan for this month with some sweetspot and some days anaerobic/vo2.
    I did a solid 40m at sweetspot fasted the other day at new FTP, I had to lie down next to the turbo for about 30 minutes, because didn’t have any energy to do anything until I ate lunch...

    Don’t think my fat utilisation (fatMax or whatever it is) has caught up with the watts...

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