EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • That's the plan, I could just about pass the B1 now but my biggest regret is not learning the language sooner. My wife and I have been together for 10 years (married for 2) and I only really started to try to learn after we'd been together for 6 or 7 years. We just had our first child during the lockdown and although I didn't think we'd leave London for years, having a new baby during covid, brexit and the country becoming a tory paradise has made me pretty desperate to leave.

  • I can imagine, if be out of here if it weren't for the ex and our son.

    Groland, guignols d'info and the minute of cyclopede are French comedy I like but my French is very rusty so I miss most.

  • Comedy is a nightmare to follow, the combination of weird accents, slang and not knowing the cultural references has me looking blankly at the screen most of the time as well. We recently got my mother in law's Canal plus account woking on our amazon firestick so I've decided to only watch French TV, even after a just a couple of weeks I'm noticing an improvement, it's kind of a little taste of what immersion must be like.

  • Cyclopede is absurd comedy, my bad French stops me from getting it, but it's not so bad for cultural references

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vTYQlzp5Oo

    This cracks me up every time, unfortunately the English subbed one is gone. There are loads of them.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BR4gXOe36k

    Here's Desproges roasting Le Pen

    But, yeah, comedy can be hard, Le Guignols is also full of word jokes of which I don't get many! No doubt your wife can help, but it takes a while. Keep watching French TV and good luck :)

    /thread-derailement

  • Thought it was basically trolling the EU

  • It must be bad if Liz Truss is picking holes in the border plans it’s not like it’s urgent at all is it.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/08/liz-truss-warns-boris-johnson-over-brexit-border-plans?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

  • I think it's just a bit stupid to try and do that with an utter no-hoper candidate who's generally considered a ridiculously incompetent fool in Europe among those few who even know of him.

  • Culture war, innit? Plucky Dr Fox against the entrenched elites etc etc.

  • Culture war, innit? Plucky Disgraced Former Defence Secretary Fox against the entrenched elites etc etc.

    ftfy.

  • It's odd behaviour - at some point (now-ish) whether they like it or not they'll be measured on delivery. Culture wars, slagging off opposition and further appointments of Disgraced Former Defence Secretary Fox won't help.

    Johnson's popularity has dived over the pandemic and I imagine it's got further to go, and that wasn't even his fault (I mean, he didn't personally cause it); he'll be killed off by supermarkets running out (again) and traffic queues through the middle of Kent. You'd have thought that they'd start to take Brexit optics a bit more seriously.

  • Well, he completely mishandled it but you cannot really blame a virus for being "anti-democratic / project fear (ha..) all the tribal division tricks just won't fly.

    As for optics, all project fear, no? ;)

  • It's odd behaviour - at some point (now-ish) whether they like it or not they'll be measured on delivery. Culture wars, slagging off opposition and further appointments of Disgraced Former Defence Secretary Fox won't help.

    Johnson's popularity has dived over the pandemic and I imagine it's got further to go, and that wasn't even his fault (I mean, he didn't personally cause it); he'll be killed off by supermarkets running out (again) and traffic queues through the middle of Kent. You'd have thought that they'd start to take Brexit optics a bit more seriously.

    The beauty of turning everything into a facet of the culture war is that it removes the need for competence:

    • Boris killed at least 50,000 people by vacillating over lockdown, starving the NHS of PPE and then backing Cummings over the law, ending lockdown (and the potential for future lockdowns) at a stroke
    • Yeah, but Corbyn would have been worse
  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53395560

    Government guidelines: Custom forms are complicated. O, Rly?

    Picture of bears retrospectively shitting in woods, 2016 referendum, colourized.

  • The same Gove who said in 2016: "We have four years more or less between now and date of next election. We can easily conclude a new settlement with EU in that period"?

    Or maybe Raab: "I hadn’t quite understood the full extent of this, but if you look at the UK and look at how we trade in goods, we are particularly reliant on the Dover-Calais crossing".

    And there's no mention in the beeb link of how the RoI/NI/GB mainland thing will work in practice.

  • Sadly shaking my family tree has not caused a hitherto unknown Irish grandparent to fall out of it.

  • It's odd behaviour - at some point (now-ish) whether they like it or not they'll be measured on delivery

    Any economic impact will be blamed on the pandemic. The surge in property sales trying to get into the stamp duty holiday will be the indicator that Brexit is paying off.

  • Can't mention how it works if the government hasn't worked that out :/

  • I'm going to have to check the Spanish immigration laws again aren't I?

    I thought they were pretty cool about it though so even if UK leaves EU can't you still move there and just register and get on with things? What difference did being EU or not EU make in Spain?

    https://www.expatinfodesk.com/expat-guide/deciding-on-the-right-country/top-expatriate-destinations/spain/

  • Yeah all us EU immigrants sit on our holes unable to speak a word of English

    Sounds familiar. The one living here is constantly yapping on in forrun - "fibre link this and cross connect that". Why can't she just bloody speak the Queen's English like us good immigrants. God only knows how she won employee of the year. She must be doing special favours for the boss. Wink wink nudge nudge...

  • But what of British citizens (or Australian citizens) that want residency in Spain? There's no extra blocks to that?

  • Ooh I don't know anything about Spanish immigration, should be Facebook forums and other places where people can help.

  • :))))))))))))

    My partner can barely work out half the company specific acronyms so I've no idea what he's saying when he is talking about work.

  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53395839

    Promise of unfettered trade from NI to GB without customs exit forms actually not guaranteed by EU yet.

    Well, ok then.

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    Not if you paid me. :)

    I'm not even bothering to look since we can't get over there anyway. I guess I should be looking to see if I can take a ferry over in Sep. Gone from lockdown not able to do anything now all of a sudden I'm trying to sort everything out. Almost like school work deadlines...

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