• Not sure what you mean.

    A golliwog’s a caricature of a person of a different race depicting physical characteristics that were used to mock said race by an invading empire whom they had no previous contact with, who treated them as sub-human and repeatedly massacred them over generations.

    I can see how some people might think it’s inoffensive because it’s a toy, but I don’t think it being a plaything makes it inoffensive. Rather, the fact that it’s fine for it to be offensive because it’s a plaything shows unconscious racism, and I wondered if a caricaturish toy depicting a stereotypical white person would be received the same way.

    As there hasn’t been a majority non-white imperial power subjugating and mistreating white people in the last few hundred years, the doll would lack the additional insult of generational mistreatment of a race.

    Hope that‘s clearer.

  • Yeah I agree/get all that. It was the idea -

    Wonder if they’d feel the same if there were similar dolls but white. Could even call the female versions Karen.

    - that I didn't think made sense. Because of exactly the reasons you detailed above. White ragdolls exist from the same era. Barbie, Cindy etc later. But without the context there can be no "similar", so "how they'd feel" to me doesn't make sense.

  • This. Which is why "how would you feel if..." arguments are bullshit and why counter-racism (against white people) isn't the same thing. I've seen articles where people claim "Gammon" is a racist term, or "Karen" is as bad as the n-word. Bollocks.

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