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• #61377
If you are caught taking drugs then you are by definition caught in possession of a controlled substance.
If you are arrested for being high when not in possession the police would have to prove that you were, at some point, in possession of the substance that got you high. I'm sure they've got bigger fish to fry. If they try to prosecute you for the act of being high then it's pretty easy to say something along the lines of; my drink was spiked / someone gave me a cookie to try it tasted a bit funny.
IANAL
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• #61378
The main three acts covering misuse of drugs don't define taking drugs as a form of possession and a quick check of some UK lawyers web sites state explicitly that taking drugs is not illegal in the UK so I think it might be more nuanced than that. Even the Guardian summary of UK drug law says taking drugs is not an offence in itself. This, and based on previous experience, is why I am suprised to see the Gov.uk site saying you can get fined or imprisoned for taking drugs.
I know there was a really big battle over avoiding criminalising drug users when the relevant laws were thrashed out.
Perhaps taking drugs while under some form of order?
I'm going to bother a lawyer over this because I'm genuinely interested.
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• #61379
Makes sense. Just trying to figure out why so many seemingly informed sources seem to contradict the Gov.uk web site.
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• #61380
Its one of those grey areas like the number of cannabis seeds sold for souvenirs or buying king size papers - c'mon -we all know .
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• #61381
Will missed their calling writing for radio 4. Good pun. Would lol again.
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• #61382
Actually maybe they're referring to taking drugs being illegal if you then drive.
EDIT: The CPS drug offence guidance doesn't mention taking drugs as an offence. https://www.cps.gov.uk/legal-guidance/drug-offences
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• #61383
It is interesting. You're right that the gov.uk website seems to be the outlier, but it wasn't in the drugs and driving section, just in the generic section.
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• #61384
I just like long cigs.
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• #61385
I suppose you have to be in possession of drugs to take drugs
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• #61386
Blowback?
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• #61387
This is the beauty of finding floor drugs, or just constantly cadging them off your mates.
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• #61388
Blowback
Thats a throwback :)
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• #61389
*Drugs penalties
You can get a fine or prison sentence if you:
take drugs
carry drugs
make drugs
sell, deal , share or find drugs (also called ‘supplying’ them)*fix
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• #61390
(Re Starkey). The missed points here are epic. It’s amazing how plainly stupid someone so academically successful can be! To seem not to understand the notion of tone of voice or concept whole bemoaning ones wasted career and thinking it’s all gone away because of one word! Which single word is he referring to? “Blacks”? Or “Damn”? Because it’s the fact that those two words as a phrase exist in his vernacular that offends me... but what do I know?
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• #61391
It’s amazing how plainly stupid someone so academically successful can be!
You can't know too many academics then...
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• #61392
that's brought back some memories from the mid to late 90's, Friday nights in a car park in Basildon, shit weed and shitter solid.
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• #61393
are you pointing fingers at the academics thread?
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• #61394
Closer to home than that. Relative by marriage that is recognised as a world-class intellect & academic, and yet is so stupid that it burns.
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• #61395
Bas Vegas!
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• #61396
I have a relative like that. World reknowned physicist with a thirty year career at Nasa and US DoD, thick as mince in all other areas other than physics.
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• #61397
"thintelligence"
(to borrow a phrase from Michael Crichton)
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• #61398
thick as mince in all other areas other than physics.
I wonder if these people are just a bit thick, eccentric, or if they are smart enough to know that they are basically protected and untouchable due to having valuable skills that are in such demand so there is literally no benefit to them in engaging with 'lower level life' and attaining actual life skills.
tl;dr someone has to clean the toilet but it's not going to be them
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• #61399
Never thought it was that cynical. But maybe it is.
IME it mostly seems to be a lack of thought towards things outside their niche area. Sometimes they find it boring so why amalgamate it into your knowledge bank?
I know "common sense" isn't popular here, but it always seems to be that which is missing. Just those things that you intuitively pick up on or can see.
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• #61400
Academics; the more degrees they collect, the more they become infinitely qualified in fuck all. I have an MA and my brother a PhD.
The drugs were just resting in my system.
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