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shouting down genuine concerns as terfism will just alienate and polorise people.
So how do we differentiate between genuine concerns and transphobia masquerading as genuine concerns.
And user114644 may indeed have genuine concerns, but even that doesn't preclude transphobia.
And that is with assuming good intentions from a first-time poster that chooses this moment and this thread to engage.
NotThamesWater
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Discussion is good, shouting down genuine concerns as terfism will just alienate and polorise people.
I have a Facebook friend who is someone I met a while back and seemed an awesome, funny, smart feminist, over the last few years I've basically watched all her posts degrade into full on hateful terf stuff, writing or linking to terf articles and editing photos in a memelike way that if it were any other group would be considered outright hate speech, views that you can see echoed and laughed at by a lot of her friends. It's really weird that there's a lot of people who I'd generally consider like me in a lefty, liberal kind of way that seem to now have more in common with right wing fash types. That's the kind of shit that needs to be locked down as the hateful terfism, but not any and all genuine, good faith discussion. The reason I've not called out the person or just unfriended them as I normally would with a racist or similar is that from seeing other people do it, I don't think it'd change any views and I'd lose an interesting, if disgusting insight into views outside my own little echo chamber and how people can seemingly get radicalised quite easily
Also hoefla's post was awesome.