• Slides at work now say "Global majority / BAME / BIPOC" in a sort of contortion of politeness.
    Most everyone I know who has to work with it hates it - but is it useful to be able to say "everyone (other than white people)" as part of identifying and challenging racism?

    One thing with the recent BLM exposure/awareness is that it has foregrounded discussion of Black experiences and injustices in a way which hasn't been done in the last few years of "diversity and inclusion"/BAME fluff.

    But, if the problem is basically held by White people and structures, then doesn't it make sense to make this distinction? (Them as distinct from everyone else.) I don't know, it's something I go round in circles with. No-one wants to be called BAME as an individual. It's patronising and dehumanising. But it's useful when you need to show what is wrong at a structural level in a succinct way.

    Any other, um, other-than-white people have thoughts on this?

  • I can understand if Habeeb doesn't like the term BAME. Even to my wholly white ears it seems clumsy. However, surely the point of the term BAME is that it is inclusive, and covers people of colour who are the victims of discrimination who would not self-identify as being black. Moroccans, Algerians, Persians, Indians, Pakistanis, Chinese, Japanese and Korean to name but a few. I'm pretty sure they don't consider themselves as being black, and I wouldn't be comfortable saying that they have to describe themselves as being black just because they're non-white.

    Equally, non-white wouldn't be an acceptable term as far as I can see because it identifies a person in negative terms, as something they're not rather than in positive terms as something that they are.

    I don't know what the answer is, but my gut reaction is that forcing people of colour who don't consider themselves as black, and who on no objective analysis are black, to be called black shouldn't be acceptable.

    Usual caveats apply, given that I speak as a white privileged male who has benefitted personally from apartheid and the exploitation of black labour. I may be part of the problem, but I'm not sure that Habeeb's suggestion is part of the solution.

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