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  • That is true, but I'd say what was once an entry level bike is now a seriously good bike. E.g. 105 is insanely good now and I'd challenge you to find any difference between it and Ultegra outside of weight. But yeah, hydro and Di2 has pushed the price up.

  • Price wise R8000 is the same as 2010 6700 so where is all the extra cost coming from?

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