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Anyway - I listened to this a few days ago, and found it really interesting. There's a transcript which is a fairly short read, and a longer unedited audio of the conversation. It was recorded in Minneapolis, pre-lockdown. Resmaa Menakem is a clinical therapist who talks about intergenerational trauma, and also has a focus on therapy through the body rather than mind only. I don't really know anything about the context (eg. lots of excited mentions of "new science!" and various nerves) but a few interesting strands/ideas in there. I found the historical musings and the body/anxiety stuff interesting. Some discussion of the 'comfortable' corporate/institutional EDI world and how alienating it is if you're not white.
https://onbeing.org/programs/resmaa-menakem-notice-the-rage-notice-the-silence/