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Agreed. Presuming it doesn't cause any harm there, I'd say it's an excellent permanent location. A little plaque and all.

That people are happy to throw ridiculous comparisons around to get a quote in?

I completely back the toppling of the Colston statue.

What to do with colonialist statues is a fascinating topic for a history teacher to deal with.

New Delhi created a "graveyard of statues" for the viceroys and other administrators of the British Raj.

The statues still exist but they've been sidelined. It seems like a very apt approach.

https://blogs.lse.ac.uk/lseih/2019/06/20/coronation-park-and-the-forgotten-statues-of-the-british-raj/

There's a statue of Queen Victoria in Georgetown, Guyana that was put up in the 1890s and damaged with dynamite in the 1950s by anticolonial protestors. After independence they took it down, but then brought it back again in 1990, I suppose arguing that it's part of their history, painful or not. It still gets vandalised regularly now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEZTZ3_cqHY

What's the scrap metal value of a statue like the Colston one?

There is the International Slavery Museum in Liverpool, probably somewhere like that is the appropriate location. Maybe it will stand land up there with an appropriate display on why it was toppled and it's place in the modern world

There are different videos but it looked like the horse got hit by something. There is a video
of a horse getting hit by one of those rental bikes but I think that had a different colour.
But basically people were throwing a lot of shit at the horses and one bolted.

Ah, thanks. Poor horses. In the first instance, for being ridden in circumstances like that, is what I mean.

That's exactly what I said, bruv!

A long serving police officer friend said a bike was chucked at the horse that then bolted . What grieved him
Most was the breakdown of police impartiality, by going down on one knee they put a division amongst themselves where levels of racism could be levelled. Creating a non uniformed front weakened them . A classic case of divide and concur.

Who said that?

I was skim reading

I'm gonna suggest that commenting when you haven't actually read what's been said is not a good look... 🙈🙉🙊

You could have a pint with a meal from 16 to 18, has that changed? Me and my mates were in the pub from the age of 14, sometimes with our teachers!! Different times...

Big oof

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pull down every confederate statue. except the nathan bedford forrest
statue in nashville, which sucks so much ass that it accidentally
disproves white supremacy.

https://twitter.com/MNateShyamalan/status/1269755676877783040

They took a statue of him down in Memphis, the state was holding the city to ransom for years saying it would withhold funds if they were removed... In the end they realised it would only cause a $250k shortfall so down they came, and everyone was much happier for it... A win/win situation...

This was the case with the Cecil Rhodes statue a couple of years ago at Oxford, a bunch of investors said they would withdraw funding if it was taken down, so it still stands, be interesting if that will change any time soon

Was he the founder of Rhodes Colleges?

Edit: Different Rhodes, a few of my friends went to Rhodes College in Memphis... Totally unrelated but it wouldn't have surprised me if there were a connection...

I like the idea of leaving the Colson statue where it is now. A nice parallel to all the 20,000 slaves who died in his captivity and most likely were unceremoniously chucked overboard to a watery grave. The city of Bristol should continue to recognise the statue as a landmark, and place a plaque at the point where they chucked it in. The plaque should tell the full story of his crimes, and end with the story of how the statue ended in the water.

Their could be an inter schools competition for the plaque wording . Add the post covid apocalypse into it and your a winner . It could be replaced with a borris/cumming one drowning in a wave of care home carers.

This is an interesting thread on the issues in Bristol and Colston, they have been debating changing the plaque for a couple of years and got nowhere. I think something along the lines of "Colston was ere, was a twat".

I suspect there are few people who are anything but relieved that it’s now in the harbour.

Thanks for that link.
Prof Kate Williams neatly summarises the bureaucratic impasse
that prevented even an admonitory plaque let alone formal removal.

Quite. and then you throw in the number of roads etc named after him, hopefully discussions might speed up now.

Let's hope so.
Will the Wills family be the next topic of discussion?