• is this FP 850+ thing the minimum or is it like "endurance racer" tier? I feel like this thread has had some kind of inflation take place where at the start (I've read the whole thing more than once) it was everyone buying an alpkit pipedream and saying how good it is, and at some point it became "buy decathlon or make your own gear"

    I even think the 850FP has been an inflation, didn't someone say 800+ is enough in the past? (yes, you: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/157341/?offset=450#comment14195899 and you actually said 750 was OK!)

    I'm trying to buy something to try out this summer/autumn/ next spring maybe that won't be a waste of money and isn't so bad that it will make me prematurely hate sleeping outdoors. I get that the better things are better and you have to pay for that privilege. I just don't want to spend that much (even second hand it feels like the big boy 900FP down stuff is all over 200?) and don't want to buy new.

  • I sleep outside quite a lot, probably 25 days a year minimum, at least 10 of those in bivvys. Almost all in the UK. I've got one of these bags and it's almost always too warm but I like to know I can go out on colder nights in confidence. I've got the alpkit nemo matt and I absolutely love it and the hunka bivvy which is entirely fine. I try not to go out in awful conditions but it has happened a few times and I've survived without maximum discomfort. Basically, buy some reasonable stuff and you'll have a lovely time. It's like bikes - you can spend endless time and money looking for the top performer with the specs you've always dreamt of. Or you can go to Decathlon, get something entirely serviceable and get out on the roads having a wonderful time...

  • you can spend endless time and money looking for the top performer

    and then you'll still need 12 bikes because it'll only be the top performer for certain scenarios.

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