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For cycling with? Hiking? Driving to a campsite and sleeping in a tent? Different bags for different activities and then you've got different budgets in each of those activities. Are you trying to win a bikepacking race or are you taking a clunker MTB 50mi from home to sleep in a field? Summer/winter use? Yada yada.
is this FP 850+ thing the minimum or is it like "endurance racer" tier? I feel like this thread has had some kind of inflation take place where at the start (I've read the whole thing more than once) it was everyone buying an alpkit pipedream and saying how good it is, and at some point it became "buy decathlon or make your own gear"
I even think the 850FP has been an inflation, didn't someone say 800+ is enough in the past? (yes, you: https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/157341/?offset=450#comment14195899 and you actually said 750 was OK!)
I'm trying to buy something to try out this summer/autumn/ next spring maybe that won't be a waste of money and isn't so bad that it will make me prematurely hate sleeping outdoors. I get that the better things are better and you have to pay for that privilege. I just don't want to spend that much (even second hand it feels like the big boy 900FP down stuff is all over 200?) and don't want to buy new.