• I don't think Cummings is the "wrong" person to go.

    The idea would obviously be that Johnson takes Cummings down with him.

    Also in that bizzarre fantasy world in which BJ resigns, how will that help? I can't see it changing any approach any time soon.

    I'd pick a random person off the street to be prime minister over Johnson. Of course, I know he won't resign. However, already (not knowing what is to come) his handling of the affair is a resigning issue, at least to me. Not that that will stop him from producing scandal after scandal until people give up because there won't be any standards for conduct in public office left to safeguard.

  • I don't think we disagree, I don't know if you've heard of Lord Carrington, but that was the world I grew up in, and it seems much more than a lifetime away now!

    At the time it seemd grossly unfair that someone resigned purely because something bad happened on his watch, regardless of culpability, however the swing in attitude to the current mantra of, hang on at all costs if you can, is sickening.

  • I have. Something similar happened with Willy Brandt (although he was apparently burned out by the time he resigned).

    Yes, it used to be understood that politics required honourable behaviour. As he already showed as pretend-Mayor and also last year, Johnson has no honour.

  • however the swing in attitude to the current mantra of, hang on at all costs if you can, is sickening.

    I don't think that's the case currently, people resign or get sacked over all sorts of shit they should just apologise and get on with their job for, the cunts hanging on at all costs are the actual cunts who should definitely fuck off though.

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