• Oliver, given the damage that his actions have had on the national sense of common purpose that existed 2 weeks ago, Cummings is definitely the person who should have resigned, (or been made to resign). Yes Johnson is now culpable for compounding that sin and has to share the guilt for the consequences, but I don't think Cummings is the "wrong" person to go.

    Also in that bizzarre fantasy world in which BJ resigns, how will that help? I can't see it changing any approach any time soon.

    On the civil disorder front, I'm not sensing that, I've found London to be a nicer more polite place. Perhaps because I'm nodding and smiling at people from my bike, not cornering them in a bar and sharing my opinions with them gratis.

  • I don't think Cummings is the "wrong" person to go.

    The idea would obviously be that Johnson takes Cummings down with him.

    Also in that bizzarre fantasy world in which BJ resigns, how will that help? I can't see it changing any approach any time soon.

    I'd pick a random person off the street to be prime minister over Johnson. Of course, I know he won't resign. However, already (not knowing what is to come) his handling of the affair is a resigning issue, at least to me. Not that that will stop him from producing scandal after scandal until people give up because there won't be any standards for conduct in public office left to safeguard.

  • I don't think we disagree, I don't know if you've heard of Lord Carrington, but that was the world I grew up in, and it seems much more than a lifetime away now!

    At the time it seemd grossly unfair that someone resigned purely because something bad happened on his watch, regardless of culpability, however the swing in attitude to the current mantra of, hang on at all costs if you can, is sickening.

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