• @Tallboy Problem with the tarn is it's almost got XC geometry, but without being light or nimble. There are plenty of steel framed bikes with more fun geometry, and that have less agricultural frames.

  • Fair, though I’m a bit heavy and wear Lycra to ride so maybe a match made in heaven. The other choices all seem to cost a lot more that I can see, or not gain me much in reach which is the point of the change

  • Don't now if you have looked at PX/On-one or like them, but there is a seconds sale at 2pm today, a couple of hardtail's, and a few frames, you can see the lot list now so might be worth checking out.

  • Your priority should be to buy something you're happy with, if you think the geometry suits you and your not bothered about the weight then get that. It's not what I'd buy. It's not that cheap, it's fairly heavy, and geometry is a bit old. Have a look out for a Crush/905/San Quentin for a lighter aluminium frame or a Cotic for something that uses better materials, any of those options will be more fun, and that's what counts isn't it?

    Also there's plenty of Cotic owners in this thread.

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