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Less! Damn, I was hoping for more as already get toe overlap with 38mm and guards on the CDF. Hmm. Maybe I need a longitude.
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You'd get at least 10 mm of tyre more clearance and the same reach with a small longitude.
And the same stack and +25 mm reach with a medium longitude, which would give you around 40 mm tyre clearance..Damn bikeinsights is a useful tool..
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I recently built up a large Vagabond, I was just reading about other Genesis bikes of LFGSS and found this so thought I'd share my experience with toe overlap.
I've got size 47 feet, but wear size 48 shoes for cycling (thick socks in winter). With 175mm cranks, WTB Nano 40mm tyres and mudguards, I don't get toe overlap.
I used to have a Cross Check - loads of toe overlap, which eventually annoyed me. I swapped everything onto an On One Inbred - no toe overlap, but I missed drop bars. I then spent ages on Bike Insights (also really like that site) trying to work out what dropbar frames might work and settled on a Vagabond in L.
I am fairly sure the Vagabond has more pedal spindle to tyre distance than the CDF? @MisterMikkel did you adjust the tyres when you looked it up? BikeInsights gives the Vagabond 2" by default I think.
MisterMikkel
sifriday
It looks like you're right about the geometries, so that should be a non-issue.
I ran 45mm tyres with mudguards on my medium vagabond and had some issues with toe overlap at low speed.
Comparing a large Vagabond with a Large CDF on BikeInsights, it appears there's around 5 mm less distance between the pedal spindle and the tyre on a Vagabond.
It is a good frame though! I'm looking into building mine up again.