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Let's all fucking burn together!

Pass me more matches.

And cunts to burn.

And a pimms, I'm rather warm.

Well Oliver, generally I would agree with you that people in our "echo chamber" can often be very out of touch with political realities, however on this one, I think Johnson has massively misjudged.

I agree, but what will cause him to lose power?

Tbh, I thought that now that the next ballot box challenge is almost 5 years away, Cummings would be expendable. However it shows that either Johnson thinks he can't cope without the guy, or DC knows where some serious skeletons are buried.

Johnson doesn't need Cummings primarily for elections. What Cummings (and Gove) appear(s) to be engaged in is to harness data for unsavoury (and probably illegal) purposes. Although I obviously don't know quite what's going on, I think that what I've heard about it sounds very dangerous.

That the next election is so far away means Johnson will try the least popular things he wants to do now. Standard modus operandi for unjust incoming governments.

I'd like to see Cummings go, although there are probably already plenty waiting in the wings to replace him who are cut from the same cloth.

Been reading Daily Ma1l comments.
And I agree with most of them.

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Two hail Mary's and one of the penis trapping things.

Spot on👍

And I do wish people would stop writing things like: 'The unaccountable elite'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/24/the-guardian-view-on-dominic-cummings-the-unaccountable-elite

The problem with that concept is that it combines the idea of an oligarchic ruling group with the idea of 'bestness', as in many usages of the word, such as 'elite soldier'. In using the word, both meanings are understood to be combined, and so you end up with the problem of why 'the best' shouldn't be the ones ruling. Would you want average people, or even the worst people, to rule? Surely you'd want the best people to rule? So why are you complaining that 'the elite' are in power?

The truth is that these people are not 'the elite', so stop giving them that kind of unwitting conceptual support.

he will be gone by Wednesday

£10 says tomorrow

Pics or...

There's no good time or way, just less bad. Sounds like he was well looked after though given their keeping covid free throughout, sorry that your Dad could not spend time with him since lockdown though.

In your opinion what’s a better phrasing?

I can't speak for Mr Schick, but how about "Unaccountable Cabal"

I'm hearing this as well, but never underestimate the ability of the Tory party to take swift and decisive action, and at this moment in time Johnson is suddenly very weak in his own party, where he was unassailable a week ago.

As an example, take Sunak who only a few months ago was promoted exponentially, on the proviso thet he submit himself to Cummings rule in a way that Javed was unprepared to. Tomorrow, if Sunak were to say either Cummings goes, and I get my own staff, or I resign, then Johnson has a choice to make.

The same goes for Raab, and Hancock. There are people in the cabinet who hate Cummings guts, and are weighing up the pros/cons of a principled resignation right now.

It would be drastic, but the 1922 committee really don't like a wounded leader.

Oh but fucking hell, if BJ goes then someone has to replace him.

There is no one, no one, in the cabinet that I would rather have in no 10 right now.

Gove would be the least bad choice, but he comes with Cummings.

Sunak, but his Brexit stance is absolutely catastrophic.

For clarity - all of the choices, including the incumbent, are unbelievably dire.

Cheery thought.

This issue has united pretty much everyone on my Facebook timeline, remainers, brexiteers, tories and nice people.

I want Patel. She’s so incredibly incompetent that she might bring the whole government down.

High risk.

Co-leadership of Patel and Raab, the dream team.

There is only one man to replace Boris.

Mark Francois.

Do we have enough stools?

Frank Mancois

The cabinet is full of shits.