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I was in bed for approx two weeks at the start of lockdown with suspected CV, although no coughing or fever. Since then (the past 3.5 weeks?) I've felt pretty tired and fatigued. Trying to do a bit of exercise but not really feeling it.
I last felt like this around 2 years ago, which eventually led to a diagnosis of Coelics disease. Following a gluten free diet I recovered from that fully, although I think the fatigue was also linked to some depression following a break up.
What am I trying to say? Oh right, yeah - I think that my bodies reaction in trying to fight something (a viral illness, or gluten) is some kind of fatigue, bordering on chronic. Has anyone experienced similar?
More importantly, do I rest rest rest, or try and get on with some semblance of normal (struggling round a 5k run and feeling shit afterwards)
*edit after reading back a few pages - I'm asthmatic, when ill i was short on breathe when doing something exerting, but could sit around watching tv for days without any breathing issues
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This is also an interesting tale of virus experience:
I've been wondering since the outbreak was official what the strange infection may have been that I had in October/November. This seems much too early for COVID-19 (in Britain), and I have so far assumed that as I didn't have any breathing difficulties that it couldn't have been COVID. The main symptoms were a dreadful cough, a feeling of being ill that I haven't had before (hard to describe), headaches, and that it seemed to get better and worse, over about 3 1/2 weeks in total. It wasn't too debilitating, just very unpleasant. Reading the above makes me think that either the people describing it had something else like me or I may have had it. But so early? I can well imagine that I may have come into contact with an international traveller who already had it, but I don't know. That's one reason why I've been interested in finding out whether the virus may have been here much earlier than believed so far. Having said that, the way Paul Garner experienced it was clearly far worse than what I had, and it may well have been just another conventional infection with similar symptoms. I suppose I won't know until/if I get 'it' for real.
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I've been wondering since the outbreak was official what the strange infection may have been that I had in October/November. This seems much too early for COVID-19 (in Britain), and I have so far assumed that as I didn't have any breathing difficulties that it couldn't have been COVID. The main symptoms were a dreadful cough, a feeling of being ill that I haven't had before (hard to describe), headaches, and that it seemed to get better and worse, over about 3 1/2 weeks in total. It wasn't too debilitating, just very unpleasant.
Same. Early December. Only thing I've had that I can remember in adulthood that I couldn't get out of bed from. Main event lasted 2-3 days, but it lingered for a week beforehand, then two weeks afterwards. Wrote off my Dec.
One of the flats in our block of eight was being used as an airbnb hotel for Chinese tourists.
That said, it briefly made life miserable for our then 2 yr old. Wife deftly avoided it, or had no symptoms.
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I had similar in January. The dry cough was persistent for me, irritatingly worse in the evening and moreso annoying for my partner who was being kept awake by it until I eventually slept.
I had one day in bed then straight back at work and for weeks I would get leg muscle ache like instant DOMS, pretty much everything was a big effort especially my commute ride. Then there was the shortness of breath/wheezing, and dizziness/brain fog/numbness, of which I'm still getting mild occasional bouts of dizzy & wheezy.
Stairs were a problem to climb some days, even into March, although all of this was intermittent -some days I felt fine.
It is hard to think it could've been Covid as it was too early really, and I reckon most likely it was another nasty but not life threatening seasonal virus doing the rounds. If Covid then given the level of spread needed to have reached me the death curve here would've been lockdown worthy back in January surely?
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A lot of us at UCL had persistent low level symptoms in the run up to Xmas, and the campus was punctuated by the sound of non-stop coughing. Obviously a massive Chinese student population – just generally global with lots of travel. We’ve all suspected it was early C-19.
I was sent this interesting blog piece by Catherine Mayer today about the death of her husband, Andy Gill from Gang of Four. More food for thought on the vagueness of the viral timeline:
https://www.catherinemayer.co.uk/post/2020-vision-14-may-16-00
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Same. Early December. Only thing I've had that I can remember in adulthood that I couldn't get out of bed from. Main event lasted 2-3 days, but it lingered for a week beforehand, then two weeks afterwards. Wrote off my Dec.
Interesting. I've just checked the dates again and I think mine was mainly in November. I don't have a direct-seeming connection to China like yours. I do know someone who went to work in Hong Kong around the middle of last year, and I don't know if he went for an exploratory visit before, but that would probably push the timeline too far back. I had loads of opportunities to pick it up from someone else somewhere, certainly from someone unknown to me.
I could get out of bed, but was feeling distinctly ropey.
That said, it briefly made life miserable for our then 2 yr old. Wife deftly avoided it, or had no symptoms.
Yeah, but she probably just cured it with cake.
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It is hard to think it could've been Covid as it was too early really, and I reckon most likely it was another nasty but not life threatening seasonal virus doing the rounds. If Covid then given the level of spread needed to have reached me the death curve here would've been lockdown worthy back in January surely?
My suspicion has just been for a while that the timeline is going to be pushed back further as people investigate past cases properly.
I don't know about how a 'death curve' for something like this develops. It has been suspected that the virus may have different strains. What I do know is that nobody had this on their radar in medical examination before the end of last year. Symptoms can be mistaken for something else, and it probably triggers various other illnesses, certainly their symptoms. Many death certificates are probably educated guesses. Perhaps the virus is less virulent than has been thought recently and really has taken this long to spread. Or perhaps SARS-Cov-2 is in itself quite mild but becomes dangerous when combined with something else that's already present in those who get seriously ill and/or die? Maybe it only acquired its seriousness over winter? Initial cases would have been relatively few and wouldn't have increased overall deaths that much at a time when seasonal deaths usually go up, anyway. There seems to be a crazy variety of symptoms and it seems hard to see the unifying factor behind them. Many victims would have been elderly or vulnerable even last year. Who knows? All that can now be tested are samples taken from patients that have for some reason been preserved, e.g. the ones in France. So many possibilities, all speculation until some evidence is found.
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Thanks, a very good piece, and sad. It definitely pushes the timeline back well into November.
Love his double glasses. RIP Andy Gill.
Interesting to hear about the likely prevalence at UCL.
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I'm sceptical about the virus being around in November/December given the speed with which it clearly spread once it was properly around from February onward. I can't see why community-acquired infections would have taken so long to pick up, especially when there are so many cases of people going to meetings/parties/other gatherings then large numbers of people becoming infected afterwards. I've heard many stories of this in the media but also anecdotally in real life.
A nasty virus definitely did go round at the end of November/start of December. It gave my then boss a chest infection and my mum got Pleurisy as a result of it. It went round my work and like with @Howard it wrote off my December and I still wasn't right come Christmas and neither was my Mum: she's normally very well despite being 69 and I found out when I got home she was still taking Lemsip after getting ill in November, which I was quite shocked by. We both observed that you kept feeling better, but would then have a wobble and get worse again and it took a long time to get over.
As I've posted before, I then got what I'm sure was Covid at the start of March. I didn't know at the time but at this point lots of people I know/around me were getting it too, and it seemed to spread very quickly.
The difference for me between the November/December thing and the presumed coronavirus in March was that although I felt like shit I managed to pretty much carry on last year, I only took a few days off work etc. Once I was properly sick in March I just couldn't do anything, very rapidly. I needed two weeks off work, was utterly exhausted for weeks and I'd say it took me at least six weeks to recover (so no, it's not just you @JamesQGM - if you have had it I'm afraid it's a long road back to full health).
All that said, who knows, maybe I had Covid-19 last year then got something else in March while still recovering from it?!
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I'm 28 with extremely mild asthma. I've got slight shortness of breath, have coughed a few times (but not fulfilling the 111 criteria of "continuous": means coughing a lot for more than an hour, or 3 or more coughing episodes in 24 hours). Not been out or done any exercise for 6 days but still working, drinking beer, etc. Girlfriend has an even milder cough but no other symptoms.
Can't imagine it could be anything else.
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Cheers. Unfortunately can't get tested unless your symptoms have appeared in the last 5 days, which mine probably have not.
Hard to say when they're so minor/vague.
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having a car is a requirement for getting a drive-through test
I can't cycle through!? What century is this!
Hah... you are right.
- I cannot get a home testing kit, as I'm living at a place that isn't my usual address and so cannot verify my identity or get a postal test.
- I cannot go to a drive-through test as I have no car and do not know someone with one.
Yay.
- I cannot get a home testing kit, as I'm living at a place that isn't my usual address and so cannot verify my identity or get a postal test.
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Probably. From what I've seen it's self administered and they recommend/request you close the car windows whilst you swab both the throat and nose because you have to stick the things far enough back/up that it can hit both the gag relfex and possibly trigger sneezing.
I guess you could convince the tester to back away even further, but I'm guessing they'll just fall back on "the computer says no".
Not sure what they'd do if you turned up in a convertible.
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It's almost like they didn't think of this when they devised the testing plan.
I think all these five year olds are going to struggle to drive to as testing centre too.
@Greenbank not sure a Zipcar would be a good idea under the circumstances! Unless @Velocio booked it for three days afterwards, or cleaned it extremely thoroughly.
Unfortunately I suspect you're right about computer says no when faced with a cyclist.
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it's self administered
Surely this just sends the false-negatives way up, as people just aren't trained for this sort of procedure.
But someone proably knows this already, and decided it isn't significant.
Or, as the more cynical of us might think, it doesnt matter, as it's just theater.
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Sorry to hear. Take it easy and heal tf up!