• Just going to preface what I am about to say with the fact I think Sturdy frames look great, and frame builders deserve to earn a good wage for the work they do.

    Regarding 3D lugs, don't they make the frame builders life easier (no complex clusters to build), without offering any particular benefit to the rider? I'm not sure I would want to pay a premium for use of 3D lugs, unless there is some benefit I don't understand.

  • I don't know if they do, but you could make them stronger for less material if you did some modelling of the forces on the joints.

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