Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

He has ownership of the database it's all stored in. There's no magic end-to-end encryption so there must be a way that he could if he wanted to.

"can" is the operative word. I'm sure it's "can, but chooses not to, read your PMs"

Obviously I know this.

Whooooosh.

Whooooosh.

Oh.

Peston and the whole thing, perfect

https://twitter.com/ali__samson/status/1261632180519870464?s=19

Daily Mail journo just asked in the press conference whether teachers understand that disadvantaged children need to go back to school ffs

Piers Corbyn really does have an odd combination of views ...

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/anti-lockdown-protest-hyde-park-a4442461.html

It looks as if he 'allows' the article writers not to mention the rightwing background to this.

Here's a summary of some of the dictatorial stuff going on around the world:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/15/under-cover-of-coronavirus-the-worlds-bad-guys-are-wreaking-havoc

It feels harder to keep distant out and about now, parks are very busy and so are pavements

As has been posted variously before, there's also this new illness that affects children--not very widespread but pretty awful:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/may/15/coronavirus-children-

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2020/may/13/italian-doctors-find-link-between-covid-19-and-inflammatory-disorder

Cross post from the mums and dads thread:

A very good summary of all current research concerning Covid19 in children, from the RCPCH. With links to all underlying studies.

https://www.rcpch.ac.uk/resources/covid-19-research-evidence-summaries

As we all ponder the reopening of schools, the section on transmission is of particular pertinence.

Goes inline with what the swedish authorities have been saying. There are no real good reasons that are evidenced based for closing down the schools for younger children. They are not driving the spread of the virus and its likely not worth the effects as then parents would need to be home with the children and cannot go to work (granted that is not much of an issue if you are allrdy at home anyways but hospital staff etc need to go still).

Not quite how I read it.

There is some quite compelling evidence that kids do not drive transmission. No evidence that they do. But overall not enough evidence to be conclusive.

A subtle difference from:

They are not driving the spread of the virus

But not much between the two statements.

For me, in conjunction with the irrefutable economic arguments, it adds up to reopening schools as a good idea.

Draw your own collisions.

Semantics no? Plus you can say the alternative stance about anything really.

There is some quite compelling evidence that covid 19 wont kill 10% of the population by the end of next year. There is no evidence that it will.

For me, in conjunction with the irrefutable economic arguments, it adds up to reopening schools as a good idea.

I agree, as long as staff are given everything they need to ensure they are protected. There is a section of the right which is building up a narrative around front line workers being heroes because they are putting their lives on the line, as a way of disguising the fact that thousands of people are dying unnecessarily because of failures of this government. The focus should be on protecting those that need it as a matter of the highest priority, not putting another part of the public sector workforce at risk.

100% concur.

Semantics no? Plus you can say the alternative stance about anything really.

I think the distinction is in degrees of confidence, as statistically measured by P values and standard deviations of normal distributions etc. There is an commonly agreed level of confidence which data needs reach, before stating the result as a conclusion.

This confidence level differentiator gets easily lost in natural language descriptions, but is well coded in the mathematics.

Middle of Greenwich is rammed today. Facilitated in no small part by the fact that the council have temporarily widened the pavements to assist the crowds, and many local business have re-opened to serve food, drinks and essentially ice-cream to the throng.

Which is great, or bollocks, depending on how you look at it.

Disclaimer: I have no intention of triggering the panic buying of oximeters. This info may be useful to some.

If any of you also read that New York Times article from last month – https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/20/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-testing-pneumonia.html –and decide to purchase an oximeter. Then this model, Contec CMS50D, according to this study – https://www.lifebox.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/The-Accuracy-of-6-Inexpensive-Pulse-Oximeters.pdf – is one of the more accurate ones on the market.

After being out of stock everywhere in the U.K. and being sold at hugely inflated prices, they now seem to be back in stock and priced at the normal rate again.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/254570822269

Natural consequence of the new measures. The combination of allowing lesuirely drives/travel and unlimited being outdoors. I guess the science ™ factored all this in. Or maybe not. We'll find out in few weeks.

Greenwich council created an absolute nightmare. Naval College grounds are closed and the whole open space around the Cutty Sark has been fenced off. So there is no way for people to spread out when crossing that area. Cyclists have to join the race track between the park and college which now has been filled with barriers on the side to make sure there is no escape. Bonus points for the segregated parking lane.

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Damn. I was going to use the hugely inflated prices to justify spending ~£200 upgrading to a Garmin Forerunner 945 that does pulse-ox.

It look like that driver is unable to get out since they put it up.

Hahaha. So I just saved you £180! You’re welcome 😁

radio 4 just about to tell whether vitamin c is actually beneficial on more or less

broadcasting now

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/ministers-move-coronavirus-teams-back-to-no-deal-brexit-planning-rbx92cdzk?fbclid=IwAR3zR4Kqhvap4pets2TaAl8U9vXvt58Rq24rhU5AE3j_mYodix8Kuc75lPs

I see the Corona virus crisis is done and dusted...lets move back to the old crisis 🙄