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There were lots of papers on N1H1 that showed different forms of lockdown don’t make a lot of difference (and that baselines in hygiene makes quite a lot). So it’s fair to ask if there is a sweet spot of liberty vs precaution vs legislation.
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and the China lockdown was way stricter.
Some thoughts on this ... this depends on how widespread C-19 was. The appearance of extreme measures means little if it was well beyond the locked down community.
The same applies in Europe. If the disease was widespread earlier. If it was present widely by the time the first tested cases emerged, the impacts lockdown made are less. So what contributed to the reduction in R? I guess questions around the level of immunity already present in the population are pressing.
( sorry for the pub science )
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Sweden is imo in voluntary social distancing. I dont think we are in lookdown the way i think of that term. It certainly does not feel locked down to live here. But i should have made the use of "lockdown" more understandable as it basicly means nothing if we all have different version of the meaning.
I mean strict rules. Cant go out more than to shop or pharmacy. Cant excercise than x amount of distance from your house, cant go to work, cant go to school etc.
To my knowledge there is not data to suggest that these extreme measures work better than those more leniant guidelines that sweden have for instance. For me to live in a lockdown would be very hard (mentally), for me to live here now is basicly not really impacting my life (granted im not all that young anymore so im ok with working n going home or similar).
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"We don't know that lockdown is the best way to go about this:" Well....that depends. If you don't want the virus to spread, you need a form of lockdown followed up by test and trace.
Russia now is having a huge growth in cases, after Putin's "i'll be grand".
We know lockdown reduces new cases. But we also know Sweden is pretty much in a voluntary lockdown, and the China lockdown was way stricter. So you also need to compare lockdown adherence (hello VE day party groups) to make it even trickier...
Netherlands is carefully re-opening and allowing some small shops to re-open with extra safety, so perhaps they can throw up some useful data in a few weeks.