Coffee Appreciation

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  • No just me using this place as a bookmark

  • Woah didn’t realise the tg was that low! We have other plastics knocking about but I won’t know what we’ve got until I go back to work (on-site) some time in July. If we’ve only got lime green or something I might take you up on that offer though!

  • Good to see someone's making them again, cheap too, Gaggia UK won't send me a stainless steel version to Oz (weirdoes) so this may be my only option...

  • I got a bit carried away.


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  • Love the branding, how on earth are you gonna manage all that?!?

  • Can I ask how long your delivery took to arrive after shipping email came through?

    I’ve got an order that was posted nearly a week ago, but no sign of it yet.

  • Dont worry. It's a lottery. I placed an order for 2kg from them last week. 1kg arrived next day, the over 1kg arrived on day six.

    Next day all the way up to two weeks....its pot luck with Royal Mail right now.

  • Fair enough, cheers.

  • Took about a week. I'm up north too, so no London sorting office chaos to factor in.

  • how on earth are you gonna manage all that?!?

  • Espresso heads - if my shot is coming out sour, but I don't think my machine can handle the grind being any finer - where do I go from there?

  • My order from Wed, 6 May, 09:09 arrived about 15 minutes ago.

  • https://angelscup.com/blog/taste/coffee-extraction-sour-vs-bitter/

    Is your portafilter already full? How many g of coffee in it?

  • Up your dose and/or brew at a high temp (if your machine allows)

  • When you say sour do you mean it's running through the machine too fast I.e. underextracted?

  • I'm using small doses (12-15g) as my machine is a bit crap. I understand this may be a limiting factor.

  • As I understand it, sour = under. To increase extraction I need to increase resistance by grinding finer but beyond a certain fineness my machine doesn't have the pressure to force water through/the puck compresses to a point where water can't get through.

    Can I increase dose but slightly decrease grind, to have a puck where the water can flow, but the higher dose will increase brew time?

    This is literally my first time trying to dial in an espresso. So no real clue what I'm doing. It's fun tho!

  • Can you add a few grams more?

  • Aye, gonna go a click coarser on the grind, back up to 15g on dose. I'm having fun either way.

  • What weight are you getting out and in what time? If you're getting ~30g out from your 15g of coffee in 30 seconds or a bit less and it's sour you can up the dose. If it's taking much less time to hit 30g then a finer grind is the way to go but you could also up the dose a bit. I usually do 18-19g in for 36-38g out in 30 seconds.

  • If he can't fine up the grind, upping the dose is all I can think of. Oh, some units you could tweak the pressure to maybe handle the finer grind but that's getting into modding territory.
    When I had working scales I'd be around 17-18g, 27-28s, 2x30ml shots

    Since I'm now using the home machine again and using proper beans (thanks Steve) I want to get some scales back in the mix to tune it up nicely.

  • Upping dose has got me there. I feel like I've had half a pill by accident. But shouldn't take this many attempts to get it right next time! Hand grinding espresso doesn't seem that sustainable tho.

  • And the end result - an absolutely banging affogato.


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  • You've given me a good idea on what to use some stale decaf beans for.

  • stale decaf beans

    Surely only good for this?

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