Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

did indeed sound quite promising

recon we'll all get tax rebates ?

The reason they have a calculated death for flu is because u dont test for it normally. Hence to compare the numbers as has been done is a lot more accurate than to compare the actual tested cases with the other. <

Right, but one of the points the author is making is that using the cold numbers, without an explanation for how they come to those numbers, distorts the public perception of C19 vs. seasonal influenza. If people don’t even tangentially know someone who’s died of the flu, then it makes 60k deaths seem like not that many.

Thats a fair and valid point. Its very hard to get a grip of these large numbers.

Couple of days ago was the first time i learned of someone i know that now knows somebody that died from covid.

The Economist has been pretty anti this generation of Tory for a while now.

The state of London Fields today 🤦‍♂️
https://twitter.com/MPSHackney/status/1259128381452533761

Felt like another day when everyone gave up on lockdown because it was sunny.

I fear between that and all the 'socially distanced' VE Day parties this could be the weekend that kicks off the second wave.

There are either some massive households near me or a load of people had given up on this social distancing lark.

I despair for the way covid seems to have accelerated the culture way. Pandemic, plus vicious recession / depression, plus brexit, plus culture war, plus cynical and incompetent governance makes me worry about where we will be in 12-24 months time.

Still, at least it is sunny out.

We have a government that can campaign but can't govern, there was an article in Conservative Home making this very observation that I read yesterday.

I was wondering recently whether it's better that Trump, Bolsonaro and Johnson are all incompetent, when we have Putin and Orban who are competent as comparators.

Anyway, back to your main point - as long as Johnson (or Patel, or whoever is in charge next year) keep the press (including their cheerleaders in the BBC) then I suspect they genuinely don't care how bad it gets for the man in the street. The Culture War, juiced by the media, keeps people voting against their best interests for decades - look at the US for proof.

Still, at least it is sunny out

Good for vitamin D :)

https://youtu.be/Bga_qG30JyY

Stay alert all

Hard to stay alert when I’m into my 6th can of Brewdog in London Fields mate

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Early start - strong work.

https://twitter.com/carolecadwalla/status/1259237739205197824?s=19

an utter abdication of responsibility and accountability at the highest level and the worst example of blame shifting i've ever seen. No longer are the tory party content with being an existential threat to just the poor and vulnerable, they are now a threat to everyone.

What the absolute fuck does 'stay alert' mean? Hands on hips so I can draw first if the Corona attacks me?

The end of 'at home' is the first thing that jumps out.

Quickly followed by the end of protecting the NHS.

Interesting read:

https://www.erinbromage.com/post/the-risks-know-them-avoid-them

There have been at least 30k deaths with barely a ripple a criticism of Government policy in the mainstream press.
They have now realised that restarting the economy will be seen as a victory and it will be our fault that there will be more deaths as we didn't follow the advice.

Tbh, if you take that at face value, it kind of suggests the people crowding the parks, tow paths, etc. currently are really not an issue.

A question, if we are doing 90k+ tests a day is that 90k people a day who have symptoms or are people going for the jolly?

"we're just following the science guv."