Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

He wasn’t putting anyone in any danger of transmission.

Except that by encouraging his mistress to travel to see him for sexeh times she may have, and so he has to shoulder some of that responsibility.

I don't think he should have lost his job, he was obviously thrown under the bus, but people in senior positions are often held to a higher level of scrutiny. If you are part of a team implementing a policy that includes "stay at home" then having your mistress come over probably won't reflect well on you.

Well the gov's talk of easing the lockdown seems to have already wormed its way into the collective subconscious down here in Brighton, stark increase in overall numbers of people out and about and lot less focus on social distancing. A lot more traffic than usual too.

The timing of all these 'the lockdown's going to be relaxed on Monday' the Tories have been feeding the BBC and others is so stupid. Right before a bank holiday weekend. It should have been kept under wraps till after, now with the good weather too I'm expecting this weekend to be a disaster.

Also because I imagine one of the key messages on Monday will be - you should still not mix with people outside your household.

This, as can be seen by those front pages, will not be how most of the population is interpreting the "end of lockdown".

now with the good weather too I'm expecting this weekend to be a disaster.

Except if that was the plan all along:-

"We were going to ease lockdown slightly after this weekend but with the behaviour seen over this long weekend and the increase in number of cases we're going to have to keep those measures in place for a bit longer, and we'll also need to introduce this extra draconian measure that we've wanted all along."

I've always suspected that must be bollocks. Possibly because fishing requires a license and there's an official record of the numbers, unlike almost every other recreational sport or activity.

but people in senior positions are often held to a higher level of scrutiny.

If there’s any space in that parallel universe I would love to join!

Quite possibly. A cursory google gives me about 3 million fishers with licences. Quite a lot. Not the most.

If there’s any space in that parallel universe I would love to join!

Indeed, shame it is not "always" or "never" rather than "often". Double standards work both ways.

Caveats: A fuck load of people fish unlicensed/ people fish with incorrect licenses (course licenses quietly bagging migratory fish) and of course the fact you only need a license to fish in freshwater, not the sea.

I know people at work who only fish at private lakes, I assume these don't need a license either? You just pay a gate fee

Thanks for the research :)

In NI 30% of deaths are care home deaths, so if 4K is about 30% added on, that's similar to here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L397TWLwrUU

Need a rod license to fish on all public and private non-tidal waters.

Private places including lakes and club stretches of river are duty bound to provide access to an EA bailiff or provide their own staff who should check licensing - in my experience most don't except for the fancier club places on nice salmon and sea trout rivers.

.. The ball is going to get covered in sweat/bodily fluids and you're then going to wack it ..

I remember the ONS stating 79% of deaths happen in hospital, but I can't remember whether that was a UK total or England specifically or what. In any case, I think the 4.something thousand deaths were added when the hospital deaths were at maybe 23k? Which adds up, very roughly speaking.

He wasn’t putting anyone in any danger of transmission. It’s actually only the appearance of the actions that are harmful.

It's just not the biological transfer that the lockdown is about, its also about the physical transfer by hand to object, object to person etc. Not making any difference if you have had it or not.

I don’t know if there is much evidence to show the spread by those with immunity is significant. I thought the latest thoughts are that (for instance kids) don’t really spread it?

Transfer is the issue, that is why surfaces are getting wiped down, we wash out hands etc. Anyone can be a transferrer.

This popped up in my browser:

https://vimeo.com/415676740

Very successful restauranteur shocked to realise that tips do not equal wages.

The whole thing makes me feel a bit queazy.

It does seem a bit shit for tips not to count if they are usually declared and taxed. Some sort of average would seem appropriate as they do for self employed folks.

The whole thing makes me feel a bit queazy.

It's probably the constant and completely needless cutting between wide and narrow cameras.

It does seem a bit shit for tips not to count if they are usually declared and taxed

I don't disagree with that, I just think one of the most successful restaurant groups in the country shouldn't be paying large numbers of its staff so little that they rely on tips to survive.

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I agree with you, but use of 'restauranteur' seems to have been increasing quite a lot. In many cases, it will undoubtedly be an error, but in principle there's nothing wrong with deliberately coining it as a new word. Interestingly, the euphonic elision in the French original is there being replaced by what arguably is a euphonic epenthesis in English. :)

What do you call somebody who restores old French bikes?