Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Fine, you win...

I'll jsut get back in my yacht cabin...

I see it as a expensive sport or activity

Edit - see you've admitted defeat....

Most sports come with some not insignificant costs, but cycling and fishing are towards the low end in terms of minimum spend, for a sport you can do entirely alone.

You can pick up a perfectly serviceable second hand bike for less than £200, and need no further specialist equipment, other than maybe some allen keys, a pump and tyre levers.

For fishing, even less than that. https://www.decathlon.co.uk/ufish-sea-240-new-id_8350930.html?

We are about to undo some of the lockdown measures - the ones that impinge most on our civil liberties for minimal societal benefit. So, allowing you to play sports / do activities that do not involve social mixing is an important part of that. I'm looking forward to doing a big bike ride without feeling guilty once more than 10 miles from home!

I'm not sure about tennis. Playing with other members of your household would be fine, but will they allow you to play against someone else? The ball is going to get covered in sweat/bodily fluids and you're then going to wack it at them.

I'm not sure about tennis.

Hmm. Can you guess what sport Boris plays?

He famously went off to play cricket with Charles Spencer
the Saturday after the Referendum Vote.

Well the gov's talk of easing the lockdown seems to have already wormed its way into the collective subconscious down here in Brighton, stark increase in overall numbers of people out and about and lot less focus on social distancing. A lot more traffic than usual too.

Walked dog to the park and back and it genuinely felt like lockdown was already over. I'm so glad that taking him out is the only reason I have to leave the house as I think we're about to shit the bed massively in this country and make it 10x worse for ourselves.

On Fergusson getting laid ... what @ChainBreaker said.

He wasn’t putting anyone in any danger of transmission. It’s actually only the appearance of the actions that are harmful.

Weirdly an incident where ‘sorry I got caught’ is totally legit.

Bare scallies love fishing round here.

Yeah it’s how a lot of men get out of the house to sit alone and not cause trouble!

The timing is definitely suspect too, the last visit was weeks ago and then it gets leaked 2 days ago.

If the grassing is because he's a public figure and must be better behaved than the rest of us, I'd have expected it in the papers the day after the second visit.

In other news: Northern Ireland is deploying dentists/nhs staff to help out in care homes, ok it varies per trust unfortunately, but at least they are doing something.

So much social policing online about people visits/people walking to close on my facebook, but care homes basically could do next to nothing about the virus being dragged in as people were discharged from hospital w/o being tested and the UK government was really late warning everyone.

There was some angling action going on at the water park last night.

The lack of discipline in overcoming this in the UK political class is stunning. Or their inability to tough out a politically difficult situation.

The idea that, because Spain has reduced their lockdown restrictions to a point which is still more restrictive than the UK, they can do the same, while having significantly higher daily ICU, infection and death figures, is bonkers and is purely being talked about to win political capital.

It is driving me potty... So much for the blitz spirit.

Had to go to the hospital yesterday. The drive there and back was pretty much the same as any other day in London traffic until I got right in to the centre of London. Realistically I don't think the lockdown would continue longer anyway given the numbers ignoring it.

Interestingly enough 'the blitz spirit' is pretty much a myth. Most people during the blitz were furious at Churchill for not doing more to prevent it and protect them. When he visited Bristol after one of their worst raids he was roundly boo'd by a significant amount of people on the street.

So it comes as no surprise that reliance on the blitz spirit attitude fails miserably when it's predicated on a gross misrepresentation in the name of jingoistic nihilism (like much else of our Great history)

Same here. But watch them tell us this is the blitz spirit. Just like Trump is spinning the reopen decision to mean the public will need to be the “warriors”.

I thought lockdown could only be eased once the new cases number was right down!? Simultaneously reading the news about New Zealand and other science led, sensible governments then looking at the U.K. is making my brain hurt.

This government are an embarrassment and the U.K. death toll should be a scandal that outrages the public. Yet each day I read comments online or hear someone say “they’re trying their best, don’t be so negative!”

I hope people will pay attention to the new cases number and still say home, but with the blonde haired clown telling us we can sunbathe and a nation of sun worshipping lizards, I highly fucking doubt it.

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This is the number of cases tested. Put it in the bin.

Death toll trends (not just in hospital) and best predictions on R number are what matters. Along with the protection of workers.

Note this is only hospital deaths.

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Yes but that doesn't change tho point, does it? Death numbers are down because the restrictions have worked, that is the case pretty much across the board.

The virus isn't gone though...

Why stay at home when Magic Monday is just around the corner

Also, good to know that Adele is pretty now she is thin.

Not in care homes, things aren't well there. The virus is still poorly controlled there.

So by not counting those deaths they are fudging the numbers. Northern Ireland is including these since 2 weeks and sending help by sending nhs workers.

I thought the official numbers now include those care home deaths? That's where the extra 4k deaths came from a week ago or so.

“Slimline Adele!” Like she’s the new fucking iPhone.

Yeah, think government don’t want to include it to keep number looking as low as possible.

Page 6 for slimline death chart’s AMAZING new look!

After digging into it a bit and following several links, I ended up here and here. It looks like key bits are:

Data on COVID-19 deaths in England are produced by Public Health England (PHE). These data are taken from 3 different sources:

• NHS England: deaths are reported by NHS Trusts using the COVID-19 Patient Notification System (CPNS) (this includes only deaths in hospitals)

• PHE Health Protection Teams: the local teams report deaths notified to them (mainly deaths not in hospitals)

• Linking SGSS to the NHS Demographic Batch Service: when a patient dies, the NHS central register of patients is notified (this is not limited to deaths in hospitals). The list of all lab-confirmed cases (SGSS: see 'England cases' section on this page) is checked against the NHS central register each day, to check if any of the patients have died.

And:

In order to improve the timely availability of data on deaths in care homes caused by the coronavirus (COVID-19), the Office for National Statistics (ONS) and the Care Quality Commission (CQC) have agreed to publish provisional counts of deaths in care homes, based on statutory notifications by care home providers to CQC.

The figures will be published as part of the ONS’s weekly deaths release, and will include:

• total count of deaths in England per day, where the death was in a care home and was notified by the care home operator as involving COVID-19

• count of deaths in care homes by local authority in England per week, divided into all deaths and deaths notified as involving COVID-19

So... it looks like they are including care home deaths now, at least as far as they're known, and possibly with a delay as they say it's 'part of the ONS’s weekly deaths release'. Following the link there gives me this, which has the 'week ending 24 April 2020' as the last entry.