• Doesn't this just mean herd immunity-which I think it's fair to say has been roundly exposed as totally false without vaccination?

    Has it? Anyway, it's not a call for a herd-immunity approach, it is an indication that you're actually some way to achieving it. If you've had a lot of infections with very few deaths then it indicates that you have managed to protect the most vulnerable while moving some way towards having the herd-immunity that will protect those people in the long-term. I'm not saying that any country has been able to achieve that, I'm suggesting that it's a better metric than number of cases per million.

  • You're really missing the point quite hard. I'm not saying that an approach of just letting the vulnerable die to achieve herd immunity is a good thing. I'm saying that a low death rate for those infected is a better indicator than cases per million. The best-case scenario is that everyone gets it and nobody dies, the worst case scenario is that everyone who gets it dies.

  • 'Herd immunity' without a vaccine is just 'let the vulnerable die' and the fact that we don't even know what percentage of the population have had it means you've no way of quantifying how far along that route we are.

    The problem is that "lockdown until there's a vaccine or other solution" will end up killing way more than the scenario above.

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