Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

I really want to believe the figures from Vietnam...but idk. I’d avoid including them if I had to persuade an audience and wanted to appear super-credible.

Yes but don't forget that there are a ton of other factors

NZ - Isolated island with relatively small numbers of external visitors
Vietnam - Similarly isolated from global travel, authoritarian Communist government
Australia - Low population density

Bit of an oversimplification but there are always other factors beyond simply government response to things

Yes they have. Im just not sure i would rather be in their possition.
But in terms of shutting down the spread they seem to have made it proper.

When talking about deaths tho will this also factor in those who will have died from lets say lack of aid beeing sent by western countries cause our ecconomies are shut? Or the lack of direct money from the west spending habits been shut down?

I think its quite clear that not many seem to think that economics does equal lives in this equation. Only those who die from getting the virus itself seem to be worth discussing. Maybe its because these are less abstract and much easier to pinpoint. Tho i think thats partly because we in the west wont die from lack of money but those who allrdy have very little will have dire consequences from even less means in other places.

Will Sweden uk us etc etc send the same amount of aid if we cant even afford to take care of our own even? Good luck to that government getting reelected. Maybe in sweden they could get away with that but likely not in a lot of other places.

I personally think that the view and how corona is discussed is often way to narrow and does not take in the bigger picture. We are not even sure that those who are now "saved" by lockdown will even be saved from getting the virus in the future. Its very hard to get a grip on whats a good solution but i think currently the view is to narrow in general.