Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

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That 'Eddy Merckx'

I seem to remember there were once ('70's/80's) an awful lot of orange EM's about, so the original orange left under the green does suggest it could be an EM. That's in the sense that when it was new it was badged as EM, rather than the sense that it was ever anything like a bike that Eddy himself might have had anything to do with.

I'd say transfers give a very unreliable guide to the origins of bike kit. I have seen sheets of transfers with all sorts of trade names: Campag, Reynolds 531 etc. I believe these were printed in China and they looked convincing enough to me. So never mind the name, look at the quality!

I've even come across examples of frames being badged down, that is given labels less prestigious than their true maker. I'm sure I've mentioned here in the past that when I was in the stove enamelling game I refinished and rebadged a whole set of excellent frames as Carrera (i.e. Halford) for a well known pro. My own TT frame came to me badged as a Dayton, but turned out to be far superior to anything they normally made - for one thing it is silver soldered; probably another job done for their pro team.

As for the Campag chainset above, I think you will find those chain rings are steel - which doesn't suggest high quality.

Moral: don't be overimpressed by branding.

I remember seeing bikes like this a lot when I was little. I can't remember this particular model, but there were certainly other bikes quite like it (although I wasn't able to appreciate details like the rack doing the job of seatstays/chainstays).

When were you little? Then I'll know how ancient this bike might be? :-)

This might interest you
http://www.foldingcyclist.com/Klapprad-folding-bikes.html
That metallic colour is pure 70's
#wirtschaftswunderklapprad

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Could someone please help me ID this?

It is 104mm BCD, four bolt.
I'd like to run it as a 1x crank on a Trek 990 from the 1996, assume I need a GXP BB in 68 or 73 flavour?

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In 2008.

Hey guys, there’s a bike for sale, don’t have much info on it, so considered posting here. The dropouts look weird therefore i think its a road frame which was rebuilt into a track one. Only look alike frames are Zeus ones but they are pretty rare and don’t have a fork like on this bike. Thanks for your attention ;))

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@bionicwheeler I’m bit late to the party but, if there’s still any doubt, this was posted on Retrobike recently: http://www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=410031

I'm hoping someone might be able to help?! I acquired this bike to use for parts for a single speed project, however i'd like to identify what it is. The frame number is badly worn i can make out S 11, but not much else. I'm wondering if it could be a Raleigh record, rapid or something similar. I'm in Stafford and we have Henry Burton in town and Viking would have been close back in the day. Front forks have been replaced. Many thanks in advance! Was definitely red before the black was hand-painted on.

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Hi guys,

bought this ride a couple of days ago and it’s really hard to identify a repainted frame without any panthos, that might give a hint.

If more pictures are required for identification just let me know.

Really thankful for any hint.
Thank you all

Cheers

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I thought this might be a good place to post this. Does anyone know what generation of Veloce this is or how to figure it out?

It came from the parts bin in a shop I worked in for a wee while and I used it as a tensioner on a slightly ridiculous singlespeed project hence I have no idea if it is 9, 10 or 11 speed compatible.

I reckon 10 speed, 2007 ish (RD7-VLXS)

looks like you have a panto on the fork crown... do you think it's an original fork? if so, put up a photo and that may help id it.
Other useful bits of info include BB thread - BSA, Italian, French and the seatpost size which will give some idea of what tubing you've got - Seatpost is usually marked with size so it's fairly easy to check

Awesome, thanks Rik, that's really helpful.

Hi Rik,

thanks for your fast response.
Here are some further details:
Seatpost 27.2
BB is ITA/ISO
Headset should be too

Here’s a picture if the fork crown. Honestly I have no idea if the fork belongs to the frame. Never seen that pantho before.

Many thanks and kind regards

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Never seen this before

Italian BB makes sense, There's an overall Italian vibe to the frame, but there were so many small local framebuilders in italy bitd that it may prove tricky to id
The fork panto is as good a place as any to start - I wondered whether it might be Rivoli but theirs is different. If you can ID that fork panto you can see if the serial# matches up.

EDIT: Just checked Rauler too, I don't think they ever had a panto like that either

that is particularly odd. @pavemann are these Campagnolo ends that the framebuilder has bent or are they something else?
I once had a Colin Cape timetrial frame from the late 70's
Spacers brazed onto the rear dropout meant the rear triangle was spaced for 126mm but beacause the owner planned to use his existing 120mm wheel it gave contingency

@Rik_Van_Looy dropouts don’t have any branding pantographed. I guess identifying the fork panto and checking the related serial number could work, if I’m able to get the matching brand.

Thanks so much for your support

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Quite unusual shape - Columbus did something similar but they tended to brand theirs... http://www.velobase.com/ViewFramePart.aspx?ID=895a53c6-7692-40cd-82de-7fea47ebe367&AbsPos=25

Good luck with the ongoing quest, it can be frustrating but it's a good buzz if you can solve the mystery!

If it's GXP it'll most likely be a Truvative of some sort. You just need any GXP 68/73mm BB (that's just one, not a choice). It will come with spacers to take up the difference. e.g. alternatively I think someone makes wee adapters to run GXP cranks in Shimano style BBs.

Those look like standard Campag vertical dropouts.

Yes, they're the vertical campag ends on my Colin Cape TT bike.
I was using that image to illustrate why a frame might be built with the drop-outs cranked inward like the ones on @pavemann 's mystery frame.

I see where the confusion may arise.

From the side view the horizontal dropout does look like it's been bashed into shape and linished so it may not have been made like that (this may explain why it has no markings...)