• That speech this morning is just pure gaslighting.

    "People are looking at us and wondering how we've done it"

    What, attained the highest death stats in Europe without even having an overwhelmed health system? Should be filed next to shoplifting stats going down. Abject tosser.

  • Not exactly trying to defend anything here, but the UK doesn't have the highest death stat quite yet, right? Neither in absolute nor in relative terms - though we're on a very 'good' trajectory to getting there... your point stands of course, what 'success' are they talking about??

  • Depends on if you believe the official stats or the figures the Financial Times put out which are 43k+.

    I'd be more inclined to go with the FT estimates personally.

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