Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

Yeah, that thing where if you make it to 82 your chances of making it further are pretty good. Similar - if you make it to 40 in some African countries, you are still likely to go on to your 70s, despite the average life expectancy being 50 something.

Both interesting interviews. Get the feeling that Freddie is somewhat starstruck with the Ferguson one.

If anyone is interested Giesecke is here: https://unherd.com/thepost/coming-up-epidemiologist-prof-johan-giesecke-shares-lessons-from-sweden/

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Quite interesting; head of the Finnish infection prevention authority (not sure of the exact name of the organisation) says their measures have been too effective, meaning a peak could happen in autumn rather summer.
I have no way of assessing his claim, but I appreciate that there is a greater diversity of opinion out there than what may filter through in one's chosen echo chamber.

Link that works quite well with google translate.

Love All Gas No Brakes.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kkBseVTUow&t

America is fucking odd.

Johnson is back and continues the government policy (which is likely indicative of a lack their of) of saying absolutely fuck all about plans for easing and exiting lockdown. Instead, there is just a purposeful misrepresentation of people and businesses genuine concern for what the future brings for immediate calls to end to lockdown - which isn't something I've seen much of at all in the UK.

Next review of the lockdown is 7th May. 8th is a bank holiday. Seems like a recipe for disaster if the measures are eased at all

Meh around our way lock down was over yesterday judging by the numbers out - and the numbers of choppers overhead monitoring them

Like Giesecke said, once you've embraced the idea of lockdown you can't back out easily-if they do ease up then they're just going to get blamed for the future spike in deaths, having already overseen a chaotic response.
I'm sure they'll be champing at the bit, and will be desperate to use some unproven app/science/whatever to justify it, but it's political Cyanide to have forced people to stay in on the grounds of safety for six weeks then just say "we've fucked it, so it's pointless."

Somewhere, somehow they need to get a massively expanded testing capacity up and running to do the hard yards of contact tracing and containment. Probably too much like hard work for BJ though.

I've had to cover my face at times. (Vicarious shame, not fear of contagion over the internet)

"Do you think that stroopwafels are an essential service?"
"Essential? Define essential."
"Essential."

"You're related to Dr Dre?"
"Kinda."

Every single one of his videos is a complete car crash of humanity that makes me ashamed that we're the same species.

Can't stop watching though.

Would love to hear how we're going to exit lockdown.
From the great minds on here, out there, anywhere really.

I'm thinking about how to phase people into an office in particular.

I'm thinking about how to phase people into an office in particular.

Free Lunches

For that you’ve got to have child care in operation.

No you don't. Phase 1 could be all people without children go back to the office.

#breedersstayaway.

No you don't. Phase 1 could be all people without children go back to the office.

We're planning several phases. Current plan is:

1. Voluntary attendance with mandatory rules for general health (hand sanitiser, masks in public areas, spacing between staff etc)
   
2. Minimal mandatory attendance with same rules (so 20% of staff per day)
   
3. 50% staff
   
4. Full staffing
   
   

Dates not set yet and we're providing flexibility for those with health or child care issues. Staff seem to be okay with the concept but in absence of a clear steer from the government regarding measures relaxing, I reckon we'll only be at 50% before the end of June. That said, WFH is fine for us.

Dunno, wonder if with that you’d be cutting a good chunk of the senior people out of the office which means you might not realise what you want to achieve by getting people back in to the office.

On the assumption that seniority means age and with age comes children. In the general sense.

Meh - I would be surprised if office going kicks in before schooling and nurseries.

"I want you to take the vaccine first, Bill Gates!"

How practical is contact tracing when there are still thousands of new infections a day?

I think we have fucked it and lockdown has failed to get numbers down to a manageable level, and the way we exit lockdown is to just outright lie about how good a job we've done (as the PM did this morning) and hope for the best.

I suppose the question is why are you trying to get people back into the office? Where I work one of the most tricky bits with working from home is new starters and the induction and on the job training which is more of an issue with junior staff.

I suppose the question is why are you trying to get people back into the office?

Yeah. It’s gonna be really interesting to see what companies of different types and mentalities do.

How practical is contact tracing when there are still thousands of new infections a day?

Is this where the app comes in? Have to say, I'm quite dubious about giving my data to the Vote Leave campaign.

They're all fucking mental.

If it helps, they probably already have it.