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Both interesting interviews. Get the feeling that Freddie is somewhat starstruck with the Ferguson one.
If anyone is interested Giesecke is here: https://unherd.com/thepost/coming-up-epidemiologist-prof-johan-giesecke-shares-lessons-from-sweden/
Howard
Neil Ferguson’s responds to Johan Giesecke claim that the UK was wrong to implement its lockdown measures.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cYjjEB3Ev8
If nothing else COVID-19 has shown how traditional journalism is unable to handle complex issues.