Let's offroad / mountain bike / mtb / ride dirt

It'll make you feel like your bunny hopping higher?

Exactly!

No just the framest. Shock came from ebay.

Hit me up when you decide you need a 35mm stem, I've got one for sale, £10 for you. 😉

Still got that Funn stem? Looks like I may need it.

I presume you're familiar with BikeCad by now, but let me know if you want a hand with anything :-)

Yeah, I've still got it, and I've got a 50mm Kore if that's any better.

Sweet. I'll take both.

I'm sure I'm late to the party with this film...but it brought back so many great memories for me.
There are both upsides and downsides to anything 'new' suddenly blowing up into something mainstream. Having been a 'mountain biker' since pretty much day one in the UK I have seen it go from something only a few people knew about, to pretty much the biggest cycling 'market' in the world. In many ways it's a good thing, because the bikes are infinitely 'better' than they were back then...but as someone who has gone through practically every new invention to ever appear in the off road world, I realised a long time ago that the more 'comfortable' and the 'easier' the technology made it to ride off road, the less I started to enjoy myself. I think I reached a place where that original feeling of struggling over and through terrain, and being bounced around all over the place was what I was missing from the early days. It began to lose its 'innocence' for me...which is probably why I haven't used suspension in over 20 years for anything except a few years of pure downhill, and have ridden fully rigid and single-speed off road for pretty much the whole of the last 2 decades.
Whatever type of 'mountain bike' you ride these days, hopefully this film will bring back some great memories for you too...and if you're not an old fucker like me, maybe it will show you where it all started. Enjoy! 😍

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6zbENQcwkk

What a noob ;-)

https://www.lfgss.com/comments/15208727/

Ha...I knew i'd be a Scotty come lately! 😂

If one could get a full custom steel hardtail frame made for UK riding, what would it look like?

https://www.btr-fabrications.com/

Which specifically? I wasn’t looking for somewhere to buy a bike

I'd get a Ranger.

Thanks, they do look cool

I can't believe BTR don't do a 200mm hard tail.

200mm hard tail

Is what @PhilDAS should build!

"Travellers – Why You Can’t Put 160mm Travel Forks On A Ranger"

https://www.btr-fabrications.com/blog/travellers/

If one could get a full custom steel hardtail frame made for UK riding, what would it look like?

https://www.mbuk.com/articles/mbuks-great-british-hardtail-spec-check/

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That looks awful

Yeah it's weird. 64 head angle and a 130mm fork? Um OK.

Seat stays are gop gop too.

Haha. I have been discussing this with @BareNecessities for months. A bike for everything from fun day rides to weeklong bikepacking adventures. With the intent of getting Marino to make it.
Post the geo for Phil's perusal?

The Whyte 900 series is practically there in terms of geometry, and that Sick/planet X bike is 62 degrees. Modern times. Where LLS doesn't work is where it's very loose, trying to lean the bike loads and maintain traction...

At this rate I may just copy my cheap alloy frame but drop the top tube and call it a day. I'm pretty happy with how it handles but the 140mm fork does get tiring after an hour or so pedalling on the flat.
Having never really ridden an XC bike, I think I need to swing a leg over one before committing to another trail frame when XC probably covers more of my riding than a long boi.

Umm does that have an angle set in it? Looks like one from the photo but could just be the angle.

What a great film. I brought a Muddy Fox in 85. A wonderful though heavy machine.
Brakes that worked and gears that got up almost anything...

Just seems well weird to have all that slackness with a comparatively short travel fork. I suspect that on full compression the HA will be slacker than the HA on my F-Si with no sag (69,5deg)!