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  • I'm not saying it's hard data but it goes to show accidents can happen anywhere anytime so there is no point pointing the finger at one specific group saying they are going to suck up NHS resources.

  • Frankie Boyle is great, always makes a lot of good points, and makes them well, and is funny, although if swears make you blush it might be hard to see that.

  • I don't understand Tweet 52:

    52/. Prof Ferguson’s modelling formed the basis of govt’s #HerdImmunity strategy. Herd immunity without a vaccine is, by definition, not a preventative measure. But even if they believed it was(!), it doesn’t explain the lack of PPE, tests & ventilators.

    I thought Ferguson's modelling forced the Government into a U-turn (much though it's being doubted that they actually U-turned)? I haven't been able to keep up with it all, though.

  • This page is useful if you want to track the global picture (obviously assuming the data is correct):

    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

    Spot the outlier among the first six countries (and assuming the figures from Iran are unreliable): Germany has had 30,000 more cases than the UK and less than a third of the deaths. I know there are differences in reporting, so the German figure may well be higher in reality (and it's not as if Germans aren't prone to a little data manipulation every once in a while, too), but it does seem striking.

  • I only watched the video clip of Boris and his superhero analogy stating his intent to protect our freedom to buy.

    So apologies, the rest of that thread could be absolute garbage :/

  • My aunt was a nurse. Slipped off a set of steps while changing the light bulb in her bathroom and got a toothbrush stuck in her aye. Bristles first.

    To use another apt Apocalypse Now analogy:

  • 'Just what he was guilty of, not one of them could say, but they'd think of something in time.'

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnGvxRYDBHs

  • Heh. I didn't watch that video, but read the thread. :)

  • They really must be having an internal competition to see who can be the biggest idiots.
    Like posties and shorts.

    That officer should not be an officer.

  • I'm not saying it's hard data but it goes to show accidents can happen anywhere anytime so there is no point pointing the finger at one specific group saying they are going to suck up NHS resources.

    ( base jumpers sigh with relief )

  • I once hospitalised a work colleague by spinning a Post It note into his eyeball across a desk, a distance of around 3m. Not relevant, but thought useful to share.

  • I once hospitalised a work colleague by spinning a Post It note into his eyeball across a desk

    Write a book with this as the first line please

  • All kicking off in Sweden by the look of it:


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  • Ha. Sorry that wasn't supposed to be a reply to you.

    Second line of story should be: He was a cunt, so I wasn't sorry.

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  • well done.


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  • Each to their own.

    Always thought he was utter shit myself.

    Change the channel funny.

  • It came from a thread looking at different lockdown strategies in comparable population sizes so seems more useful looking at Sweden Vs Norway than comparing to USA. Another guy broke it down to mortality per million in Scandinavia and Sweden much higher than anywhere else who've adopted different strategies.


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  • Comedy is so subjective. Which comedians do you like?

  • Well I'm glad you ask.

    I even recall talking about this in the stand up thread? 😊

    Maybe this isn't the right thread for has been stand ups... (or never been in the case of Boyle)

    Still. Tom Stade.

  • Indeed, but the point is that the rate of accidents is roughly proportional to the duration (or number of iterations) of an activity. The more you do something, or the longer you do something, the greater the risk.

    If anyone thinks that a 160km ride carries the same (or lower) risk than a 20km ride then they're deluding themselves. The risk may be low but the number of cycle related KSIs each year is real statistic - how it will be affected by lower traffic counts (but seemingly more possibility of speeding motorists and closer passes) will come out in the stats at a later date.

    Climbing your stairs 5 times in the course of a day represents a risk, but it's a necessary risk if that's what you generally do in a day.

    Climbing your stairs an extra 200 times a day as part of a fitness regime represents a significant unnecessary increase in risk, there are safer ways to get a similar amount of exercise. But ultimately it's the choice of the individual concerned.

    An everyday activity has risk but that alone doesn't provide justification for doing that same activity far more frequently (and beyond the point of necessity) without understanding the possible consequences.

    This translates to outdoor exercise too. No-one is saying don't go out for a daily cycle ride, or whatever form of exercise you want, but the longer the daily ride the greater the risk and, at some point, the less likely that a journey is likely to pass as "reasonable". Doing 400km a day would be hard to justify as "reasonable" or "necessary" for pretty much anyone in the country.

    In this current situation outdoor exercise is a luxury not a necessity. Maddening as it may be, it's perfectly possible to maintain some form of fitness without going outside, and you never know this may become the situation here if the number of cases does not start to fall soon.

    Yes an increase in DIY will represent an increase in A&E admissions, there's no great surprise. No-one has said no to doing DIY but the guidance to police recently issued on what constitutes a "necessary" trip to the shops suggests a trip to buy DIY equipment for renovation or improvements alone would be unlikely to be reasonable: https://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/COVID-19/Documents/What-constitutes-a-reasonable-excuse.pdf but allows trips to buy tools for "maintenance and upkeep". I guess that if you happen to be going in order to buy items for "maintenance and upkeep" then you can buy the other items while you are there (much as you can buy non-essential items when food shopping).

    If the Police would rather people weren't going out to buy items purely for renovation or improvements then it could be implied that "they" don't want those kinds of activities to increase (this is not the same as them wanting those kinds of activities to stop completely.) Again, the idea is not increase the burden on the NHS and, ideally, to reduce it, but not reduce it to zero by somehow banning it.

    The tl;dr is that a small proportion cyclists (and runners to an extent) are certainly pushing the bounds of "reasonableness" and the "necessity" of their exercise regimes. As Chris Boardman said in a recent tweet, people should be thinking about getting out to maintain a healthy minimum level of fitness (and mental health), but not "entrainment". It's not about maintaining relatively extreme levels of fitness (in comparison to the general population). Social responsibility should have you indoors (or in private outdoors) as much as you can but, at the end of the day Jeff, it's an individuals choice.

  • Maybe this isn't the right thread for has been stand ups... (or never been in the case of Boyle)

    It's one thing not to appreciate his talent, it's another to try and dismiss him as a 'never has been' considering he's been involved with 10 TV shows, had three books published, and performed a run of 100 sell out stand up shows, as well as being a paid columnist for major national titles.

    But all that counts for less than some whining chastity belt on the internet's personal dislike of him.

    I fucking hate strawberry ice cream but I don't put so much stock in my opinion of it to feel entitled to deny it exists and that it appeals to others...

  • The fuck is wrong with strawberry ice cream you daft prick?

  • it's part of the neopolitan elite.

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