Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

But influenza isn't a coronavirus.

Oh really? Never would have thought!

(If you think my understanding of this is so limited, if I were you I simply wouldn't have replied.)

There has never been an effective vaccine against any human coronoavirus to date.

Yes, because we've had no reason to do it - who's going to work on that when they could work on Cancer?

Now this thing is bigger than Cancer. Cancer, AIDS, Dementia, Malaria, Heart Disease, Alzheimers.... everything.

That's not a great precedent.

It's better than a complete absence of any large scale effective vaccine I think.

Now this thing is bigger than Cancer.

Rhythm is a dancer.

I would have thought SARs was a reasonable warning! Although I obviously have no idea if a SARs vaccine had been found whether it would provide any help finding a Sars-Cov-2 vaccine.

I would have thought SARs was a reasonable warning!

Try getting money for research that might not yield anything for a disease that statistically nobody gets.

I think it's lunchtime right?
Who's hungry? Have we had a drink?

Brothers & Sisters, why are we allowing Corona to tear us apart like this :'(

Ha - I realised my tone sounded pissy when I re-read it. Thanks for the link - interesting.

Cabin fever

I blame @amey

I'm pissed because Gails in Maida Vale is still open.

Is alright. I'm immune to this.
WAKKA WAKKA
Also. I've been banging links from lots of different places today.

here's a quick bit of a summary
NIH - what it is and what's being done therapeutically
https://www.niaid.nih.gov/diseases-conditions/coronaviruses

Because we're talking new technologies (and coronavirus in human vaccines haven't been successful) i read this
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00827-6

Which uses every fanboys favourite biotech CRISPR as a detection tool.

Which makes me think positive vibes

Yes, because we've had no reason to do it - who's going to work on that when they could work on Cancer?

I'm not sure that's necessarily true. 4 common human coronaviruses form part of the collection of viruses we collectively refer to as the common cold. Considerable amounts of time and effort have been spent trying to develop vaccines. None have succeeded. Considerable efforts were also made to finding a SARS vaccine. There is none.

Maybe this time it'll be different, but the assumption that we'll be able to find a vaccine against SARS2 because we've been able to develop vaccines for other entirely different types of virus is quite a leap of faith. And as we know from HIV, throwing vast amounts and money and time at a problem doesn't necessarily result in an effective vaccine.

+rep

For a moment I thought that was by Corona (got it confused for their cover of Rhythm of the Night) which would've been perfect.

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4 common human coronaviruses form part of the collection of viruses we collectively refer to as the common cold.

That considerable effort would have been proportionate to the impact the Common Cold has on the population. I mean, who would buy a vaccine for the common cold. Unless there's a lethal or highly debilitating strain I've missed.

Considerable efforts were also made to finding a SARS vaccine. There is none.

Yes, but now time has moved on, and we find Europe and the US is unable to leave the house. As above, what was a tiny blip barely on the radar, is now the biggest thing going. Where big efforts have been made, you can be sure bigger efforts will be made. The prize is fucking massive, there has never been anything like it. This is a good thing, a reason to be hopeful.

the assumption that we'll be able to find a vaccine against SARS2 because we've been able to develop vaccines for other entirely different types of virus is quite a leap of faith.

Yes, but this is not where I place all my faith, perhaps my post did not make that clear.

Ha!

Rep and rep @villa-ru!

Oooh dat olive bread

Interesting train of thought. A counter would be that we will certainly get better at cluster detection and snubbing out new spread. That might allow us to go on without an eventual vaccine.

Can understand being scared. You must be brave to get involved.

But as time goes on then doesn’t the reward?

Individuals don’t have GDPR responsibilities for private unverified conversations they’re on the receiving end of, about information neither they nor their employers are controllers of.

For the common cold? Nope.

No for this

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Hah thank fuck some actual lols