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• #8802
And it is normally per 100,000 people.
Of course. But not (necessarily) of the entire country. And it is debatable whether it makes sense to even adjust it for the population of one city / area at the start, as the infection will just spread unhindered either way, and for the spread (and therefore to assess the virulence etc.) it doesn't matter much whether beyond the people infected, there are 1 million more or 10 million more - that's not the limiting factor at the beginning. As the whole thing matures, it starts to make more sense to look at it as a spread in a certain group of people of course, be it a city or a province or a state or whatever.
But if you do that too early, all you do is just make the infected percentage look ridiculously small and barely noticeable, which doesn't show the seriousness of the situation well.
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• #8803
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
You can sort for deaths per 1 million population here.
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• #8804
I'd probably start expressing it in terms of Wuhan pop per 100k and I would want to start comparing age profiles and the rates of death per age bracket.
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• #8805
I'd say it's pretty mature in China. Wouldn't you?
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• #8806
In China, yes. That still leaves you with the problem of which part of the population you include in your calculation. It's not that straightforward.
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• #8807
Fucking hell, do you argue with yourself as well?
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• #8808
Very very morish. You know you've eaten too many when you get the vinegar sweats.
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• #8809
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You replied to something I sad, I replied to something you said. Not sure where the problem is - assuming this was directed at me.
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• #8810
Jesus
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• #8811
I'm sorry. I'm overly tired and I've had a really shit day.
What you're saying is right..but there's reasons for using rates sensibly. I can tell you do numbers, so you probably (hahahaha stats) know why rates are used and you probably know it's about time rates were/are used in China and that they should take into account the age population so you can say:
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• #8812
I'm sorry. I'm overly tired and I've had a really shit day.
No worries mate, I'm not in the best mood myself.
I mean overall you have a point of course, in the end the 'per 100k' numbers will be the interesting ones, and long-term comparisons of absolute numbers will start to be a little unfair to larger countries. E.g. when the US really takes off.
It's just that, to use a pretty crap comparison, in most places we're looking at the rate at which some broken oil platform is dumping oil into the ocean, and we care about minimising it and containing it in one spot - it's less relevant how large the ocean is overall at this point, and it would only serve to downplay the problem.
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• #8813
Internet strangers having an argument and then both apologise? Gotta love lfgss
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• #8814
Lockdown got to me a fair bit today too. Bump in the road. Tomorrows a new day.
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• #8815
Wells it wasn't serious.
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• #8816
We weren't talking gear ratios or psi
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• #8817
Well that’s just great..
Excel Centre and Manor Park both on my doorstep. So me volunteering should be a doddle.. -
• #8819
Meanwhile, Elon gonna Elon
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• #8820
One day at a time for now, search out the good news.
Hope you feel better tomorrow.
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• #8821
And me, found it hard to lift the dark mood, running is my usual stress relief but unable to do that for a while, 100 burpees instead was awful.
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• #8822
search out the good news
Can't help but look at the global stats a lot, even though it obviously doesn't help the mood. Still, it looks like Italy really is turning the corner. It's not exactly in a state to be celebrated yet, but better than just getting worse and worse. Forza Italia.
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• #8823
Fascinating...
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• #8824
When the Telegraph turns on the government it’s potentially game on
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUi9ZbvXkAI27TJ?format=jpg&name=large
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• #8825
Yeh tomorrow's mail front page is pretty damning as well
Yes, once it has reached an appropriate limit (such as a considerable percentage of population), up until then it makes more sense to discuss it in absolute terms.