Chat about Novel Coronavirus - 2019-nCoV - COVID-19

No doubt, but that's not really what I'm getting at.

an antibody test would enable those people who test positive for them to go back to a close to normal way of life

Is this true though? You're still walking around smearing your hands on things even if you categorically are not personally contagious (which you could be). My worry is people will take a positive result as carte blanche to disregard all the handwashing etc. and accidentally spread it further.

You also create an incentive for people to go out and get the virus intentionally. Your boss might say "go and lick some products in the supermarket so we can reopen in 2 weeks, or else we'll sack you".

Phillip Lee thread on how the Government failed to prepare despite warnings, definitely the questions that need to be asked once this is all over:
https://twitter.com/DrPhillipLee/status/1244726326004715520

people in my work dropping like flies. seems patient zero travelled from Madrid when they were doing lockdown.

Cheers then.

One of my colleagues came back from holiday over a month ago and locked himself in for 2 weeks, just in case. That was before there were official rules, just out of precaution.

He didn't get sick but definitely did the right thing.

Hope your colleagues won't get severely ill and won't end up in hospital or with long term problems.

So I have a question (genuine one!) We live on a farm, there are 3 houses on the farm, all within a mile of each other, with no houses or anything else in between. We live in one house, my brother in law and his family in another, and parents in law in the third. We have all been isolating now for 10 days, simply because we can and why not. The question has been put to me as to whether after 14 days we would be ok to mix? it wouldn't involve any travelling as they drive past multiple times a day on the tractor, but genuinely don't know what the correct answer is, any thoughts?

What year are you from?

Devon, so the 1950s

The rules say no. If none of you are going anywhere else (to get groceries?) it shouldn't hurt after the 14. But rules...

Why increase a risk to all your family when the guidance says not to?

I would if I was you.

the best thing is that it was our HR manager who fucking did it, spread it to director of my dept then all managers and some co-ordinators. Entire management team fuckoed for weeks, not that anyone really noticed their absence...

Out of about ten folk couple seem to have had it bad, and most quite mild so reflects the general trend.

@Squaredisk valid points, and we certainly aren't planning on taking any risks, the question was put to me by the in-laws, and struggling to say why not, as the risks seem small. I mean the chances are if one of us gets it then it will be passed around, BiL, FiL and MiL all work together on the farm, and I chip in as well, and social distancing not that easy when you are pushing cows around... We are also sharing home food deliveries to try and minimise strain on resources, so guess there is a chance of cross-contamination there too.

Different things in this are concerning and the lack of opposition that @amey mentions upthread is concerning and the transparently hollow election promises that bent the truth inside out (nurses, hospitals, Brexit) are all concerning. It's a shit sandwich waiting to happen.

if you do the full two weeks without symptoms and can get food/supplies delivered without mixing with other folk then I don't see why not. Just need to be careful about handling other deliveries.

Thankfully we got a delivery on Sunday for all 3 houses, and got another one booked for next Saturday, and local shop also delivers (we really do live in the 1950's), and any other deliveries are left in the garage for a couple of days and then unwrapped out there whilst wearing gloves, so we are doing everything we can to reduce risk, will see how the week goes I think.

I guess it's about minimising possible spread. The more you are together, the more chance of droplet infection. The less, the better. If you have a choice.

Yes, very true. I may propose that they can see each other but stay 2m apart, I can Easily take not seeing my in-laws every day...

To be fair now isn't the time for opposition to be be being super vocal as it will just look trying to undermine Government and political point scoring at a time of national emergency and play very badly I expect with the public. But once this situation is more stable, hopefully Labour and others will have their houses in order and being able to hammer them for complacency, incompetence and austerity being a political choice.

well, once you're in the clear symptoms wise you're basically you're own wee ecosystem so in theory safe until something/someone from outside comes into that equation.

if you still observe the two meter rule and do handwashing etc I really don't see how you'll get it but that's just me!

Yes, we are essentially turning into an Amish community, i'll go turn the electrics off.

Also depends on where/when each of you mix outside of the properties.

For example if you, in a couple of weeks, went to Shop/Supermarket A and bought some things.

Then, a bit later, if one of your in-laws went to Shop B.

A bit later someone from the third property went to Shop C.

Without the mixing there would be no connection (via your family at least) from Shop A to shop B or shop C but by mixing families you now increase the exposure/mixing risk for everyone else. People who also shopped in Shop C who never went to Shop A now have a possible connection (however small).

By keeping separate you help minimise this risk.

I read 'isolating' as just that, in that none of them had been outside the boundaries of the farm.

Reads like a primary school test question circa 2025AD.

Well situation is currently that none of us have been out of the farm for the last 10 days, and the aim is to keep it that way, assuming we can continue to get food delivered or rely on the freezer, so would only consider it if that continued to be true.

Reads like a primary school test question circa 2025AD

Ha!